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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanS View Post
    How many of you cable fans have calculated or measured the current your system draws, amps? What did you find? I'm glad my expectation bias prevents me from hearing these improvements saves a packet in cash and worry if I got the best cable.
    My system idles at about 130W and peaks at around 350W when seriously giving it some (not my normal volume).

    Expectation bias? That's for teenagers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive197 View Post
    The other issue is, where would it be most effective? The mains block, Pre Amp or streamer. Can't put it on one mono power amp.
    The block if you have one for sure. My best lead is on my Regenerator and I proved that was the very best place. Martin T's idea which I still don't fiully see the logic for, but who cares if it works !
    Then the power amp
    Then the deck or CD
    Seems to be the favoured places
    Go for a bank of unswitched sockets on the wall rather than a block if you can
    Try it in each position for your own satisfaction

    I'm going to try an Ultimate on a low end system the other half has and see what happens. Don't hold your breath though
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMusic View Post
    The block if you have one for sure. My best lead is on my Regenerator and I proved that was the very best place. Martin T's idea which I still don't fiully see the logic for, but who cares if it works !
    Then the power amp
    Then the deck or CD
    Seems to be the favoured places
    Go for a bank of unswitched sockets on the wall rather than a block if you can
    Try it in each position for your own satisfaction

    I'm going to try an Ultimate on a low end system the other half has and see what happens. Don't hold your breath though
    I think I would agree about the block. I already have all my wall sockets unswitched. As already mentioned I run two mono block power amps so that's a non-starter. I rarely use cd these days as my music is now all ripped to a NAS, hence the streamer suggestion. As for my TT, it has already been suggested on a previous thread that I don't touch the weedy two-core exiting the unit, until I use an external power supply, which may be a project along with the bearing next year, as funds are tighter now that I have retired and am no longer in the trade.
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    SPEAKERS: Spendor D7 on Iso-Acoustics Gaia Neo III’s
    HEADPHONES: OPPO PM-1 with Atlas Zeno cable, B&W Pi8.
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    Digital:Audioquest Carbon Ethernet x 4, Audioquest Carbon digital x2, English Electric 8 Switch, Chord Optichord, Atlas Optical.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive197 View Post
    I think I would agree about the block. I already have all my wall sockets unswitched. As already mentioned I run two mono block power amps so that's a non-starter. I rarely use cd these days as my music is now all ripped to a NAS, hence the streamer suggestion. As for my TT, it has already been suggested on a previous thread that I don't touch the weedy two-core exiting the unit, until I use an external power supply, which may be a project along with the bearing next year, as funds are tighter now that I have retired and am no longer in the trade.
    I have a "special mains lead" for mono x's, and a lot of mono x customers as it happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    My system idles at about 130W and peaks at around 350W when seriously giving it some (not my normal volume).

    Expectation bias? That's for teenagers

    That's some current isn't it? Less than 1 amp and just above.

    I am sorry when I decided to go against my instincts after reading a thread like this (how amazing a cable was) I thought buy one and try it, be open minded. Cable from MCRU arrives goes in system no difference whatsoever.

    That's not to say you guys don't hear the things you do in your systems but in mine MCRU cable make no difference. It's still there. I don''t expect the cable to sound different and it isn't, saves a load of dosh and time.

    I read mains cable threads with fascination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanS View Post
    Cable from MCRU arrives goes in system no difference whatsoever.
    Summat is up there.
    I had differences from the very start.
    Are you running from an unswitched socket direct to the hifi item ?
    TAD CD / DAC / Pre, Technics 1210, MCRU PSU, Mike New Bearing & Platter, Stillpoints LP1 weight, Speedy Steve Ebony armboard, Fidelity Research FR64FX arm, Ortofon SPU. Aurorasound VIDA Phono Pre Amp, TAD Power Amp, TAD E1 speakers. Coherent RTZ 3 Grounding box, Coherent grounding cables, Creaktiv racks. Coherent Mains Cables. SR Blue Fuse. Interconnects : Coherent and Yannis 223.5 Connect Litz. Coherent speaker cable. Audio Magic Transcendence Conditioner. Coherent mains socket. Mains Filters : , PS Audio Harvesters, Russ Andrews Purifiers, Tacima, Vertex. Black Ravioli and RDC supports. Electric Beach S1NX platforms for TAD CD and Technics. Ferrite chokes everywhere except the above. Ears, brain

    Mike

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMusic View Post
    Are you running from an unswitched socket direct to the hifi item ?
    Lots of possible variables: spur rather than ring main; fuse box rather than breakers; extensions or mains blocks being used; terrible mains bourn noise or interference etc. Every system is differently comprised and assembled; if Alan hears no difference then that's a valid finding. Which is why we keep saying borrow/try one first if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeMusic View Post
    Summat is up there.
    I had differences from the very start.
    Are you running from an unswitched socket direct to the hifi item ?
    Nothing wrong at all, I see no reason why a bit of mains wire will make a difference over a low current thing like a HiFi. I don't expect it to be different and it isn't, saves a whole load of cash and time. You guys who just trust your ears are enjoying them cables great. I trust mine and hear nothing.

    Signal cables that is IC and speakers will make a difference due to their construction differences on low voltage signals, 240v is another story.

    Enjoy your purchases Mike.

    Note people, environments and systems are different so what one person experiences isn't by another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mains Cables R Us View Post
    I have a "special mains lead" for mono x's, and a lot of mono x customers as it happens!
    Hi David, you've peaked my curiosity, what the hell are special mains leads for MonoX's. I currently use a pair of Chord Co. Powerchord's plugged into an Isotek Orion 6 way which also uses a Powerchord. If you are suggesting that your leads would be an improvement may I borrow a pair so that I can put that to the test? I must say that I have never seen them mentioned on the Cyrus Unlimited forum on which I am also a member.
    SOURCE: SME12A Turntable with SME Series V tonearm/Hana Umami Red, or Audio Technica AT-OC9XSH, PS Audio Stellar Phonostage, Shanling CD 80MkII, OPPO UDP-205 BluRay, SkyQ.
    AMPLIFIER: Bryston BR-20 Pre/DAC/Streamer & Bryston 4B3 Power Amplifier
    SPEAKERS: Spendor D7 on Iso-Acoustics Gaia Neo III’s
    HEADPHONES: OPPO PM-1 with Atlas Zeno cable, B&W Pi8.
    CABLES: Analogue: Speaker: Atlas Mavros Grun. Interconnect - Atlas Mavros XLR x3.
    Digital:Audioquest Carbon Ethernet x 4, Audioquest Carbon digital x2, English Electric 8 Switch, Chord Optichord, Atlas Optical.
    Mains: PS Audio Perfectwave AC-05 x 7, Isol-8 Powerline Extreme with Quantum Science yellow fuse on input cable, Sounds Fantastic 6way Mains Blocks.
    ACCESSORIES: Keith Monks Prodigy+ RCM
    STORAGE: Synology DS216J NAS with 2 x 3Tb WD Red hard-drives. Samsung 500Gb SSD.
    TV LG55B7 OLED

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlanS View Post
    That's some current isn't it? Less than 1 amp and just above.
    Music isn't steady state. Peak demands would be much higher.

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