Believe and enjoy what you like, but I am convinced the LP12 was one of the great cons. It wasn't so much it was bad (although the setup nonsense was a nonsense for a consumer product). It just was basically the same as so many others and offered nothing new. It's sound derived from its felt mat (everyone was rubber before that) and its "weightyness". But nobody ever played an LP12. They played an LP12 with an arm and a cartridge on, and it was those components made it better than "ordinary" record players. CD came along and the Linn sound, started to lack detail , imaging....