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I'm David.
The PTG these days should sell for £500 at least - actually getting on for a grand I think.
Twenty odd years ago, the price difference from budget to expensive cartridges was huge - baby Ortofons which now sell for £75 were around £30 back then and the AT33ML was a good few hundred at the time.
I still can't reconcile how some cartridges have stayed fairly static in price (apart from currency changes recently), whereas others have gone up by nearly three times their late eighties cost.
I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?
Alien Entity
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Originally Posted by DSJR
Blimey!... did I mention mine only cost £185!
Shian7
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I'm Steve.
Those are / were high prices and Mike, you got a bargain.
Mine was reasonable enough through Audiocubes2 considering it's performance.
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I paid £280 from Audiocubes for my AT33PTG and consider it a bargain, especially as the OC9 has gone up to around the £400 mark.
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Location: North East UK
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Well TBH, it was more good luck that good judgement. I just happened to buy it just before the £ became worth pegs & buttons on the international market.
I'd be interested to hear what values others set their tracking force and phono stage loading at?
I'm dieing to do some playing with mine since fitting the JMW tonearm but the motor unit is still away getting supercharged at the moment...
Cheers...
Shian7
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kudakutemo
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Though it be be broken -
broken again - still it's there:
the moon on the water.
- Choshu.
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Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK
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I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.
<Snigger> "Good luck", my arse! It was me who originally recommended the 33PTG to you, otherwise you'd have known bugger all about it!Well TBH, it was more good luck that good judgement. I just happened to buy it just before the £ became worth pegs & buttons on the international market.
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
Alien Entity
Location: North East UK
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But did you tell me WHEN to but it?... did you buggery!
I was talking about the timing of the purchase numb nuts!
Shian7
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Kudakutemo
kudakutemo
ari mizu-no tsuki
Though it be be broken -
broken again - still it's there:
the moon on the water.
- Choshu.
Site Owner/Administrator
Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK
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I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.
When to "but it"?
Anyway, this I know - I was just gently reminding you of what prompted your purchase of the cartridge in the first place
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
Alien Entity
Location: North East UK
Posts: 6,358
I'm InSpace.
So I type like a knob, what's new!When to "but it"?
Your recommendation is on the forum somewhere as a matter of record, whaddaya want, a medal!
Shian7
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Kudakutemo
kudakutemo
ari mizu-no tsuki
Though it be be broken -
broken again - still it's there:
the moon on the water.
- Choshu.
Site Owner/Administrator
Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK
Posts: 110,518
I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.
Yesh, shweety - you can pin it on my big "but"!
My apologies to all our sensible members - normal service will be resumed shortly.
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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