Richard's hi-fi ranting 'Room 101'

[WikiBoy]

Isn't that just marketing by a different name?

Nope it is community - people.

Example the number of students at facebook that has recently caused HBOS to change policy because the community got together and outed them over stitch up student loans.

Marketing is a "think" and the individuals are corporate shadows, no longer real people. Robots of the "never mind the taste sell the sizzle" culture. Image is more important than reality "think".

[Chris Frost]

So HiFi and consumer electronics goods should be sold like value brand baked beans and bread is sold in supermarkets?

[Ashley James]

Richard is (largely) referring to a certain 'duo' of marketing men who are apparently trying to take over several threads in an attempt to promote a certain product!

I keep telling you JC is simply and enthusiastic customer and this is not the place to sell AVI, you lot are the very antithesis of our customers.

As for taking over any other threads, I've never been near Wigwam, not even registered, and they've been at it for a year, but I've done a month on PF and had enough. As I've already said, nothing on any of these forums has had a measurable effect on our business or the numbers visiting our site, which has remained at between 300 and 400 uniques a day.

It's fun to argue with people who are a total anathema to me but it's no help to my business whatsoever, so don't flatter yourselves.

I don't mind trying to put across a differing viewpoint but that's as far as it goes.

[Mike]

I keep telling you JC is simply and enthusiastic customer and this is not the place to sell AVI

You have told me no such thing, actually.

[Mike]

so don't flatter yourselves.

Exactly how am I supposed to feel flattered?

[Mike]

I've never been near Wigwam, not even registered, and they've been at it for a year, but I've done a month on PF and had enough.

I've never been on Wigwam either. I am a member on PF but have not posted there for a couple of years.

[Marco]

Ashley,

I keep telling you JC is simply and enthusiastic customer and this is not the place to sell AVI, you lot are the very antithesis of our customers.

I've got no doubt that's exactly what JC is because I wouldn't like to think you were a liar. I'm very glad that 'us lot' are the very antithesis of your customers - I wouldn't have it any other way!

As for taking over any other threads, I've never been near Wigwam, not even registered, and they've been at it for a year, but I've done a month on PF and had enough.

What's Wigwam got to do with it? I don't mind you "taking over" threads providing what you're discussing is relevant and not just blatant promoting of AVI. I've enjoyed our little 'spats' so far!

As I've already said, nothing on any of these forums has had a measurable effect on our business or the numbers visiting our site, which has remained at between 300 and 400 uniques a day.

That doesn't surprise me. Why should what's written on audio forums affect how many hits your website gets? I would have thought most of your customers don't go near audio forums. That's not necessarily a gauge though on how discerning they are.

It's fun to argue with people who are a total anathema to me...

That's funny. I was thinking the very same thing myself!

I don't mind trying to put across a differing viewpoint but that's as far as it goes.

And it's a pleasure to have you here offering your opinion - long may it continue.

Perhaps lay off championing the computer audio/ADM9 thing for a bit? I'd like to hear more about Ashley James the person, his audio history, and his views on other aspects of hi-fi and music than Ashley James boss of AVI promoting his latest products

Perhaps you could oblige?

Marco.

[Ashley James]

Happily, I get fed up with defending them, but bloody furious when stupid and ill informed comments are made about them.

I notice comments about bigger speakers being better and having a greater scale than little ones and this is somewhere that I'm very well qualified to comment, having spent years selling and installing monsters in Studios and in homes including my own. I love them although with proper amplifiers controlling the bass properly, not wimpy little horrors. My speaker test amps here produce up to 1200 Watts and 100 Amps and still measure at least 20dB better than certain others.

I'm beginning to think there are too many problems in passive three-way speakers for them to fully better the best two-ways though, although they are obviously (proper ones properly designed) much louder, they are a bit harsher because it's impossible to stop the crossovers from being audible through the Mid.

B & W's Diamond Series is one possible solution, they've moved the top crossover up to 5kHz, I think they are relying on the natural roll-off of the Mid and a simple fliter on the Tweeter. This just leaves the Bass/Mid to bugger things up! I'm told it's much better than the previous models that did suffer from an irritating metal tweeter jangling in the Mid.

[jcbrum]

Hello chaps, at ease.

[WikiBoy]

So HiFi and consumer electronics goods should be sold like value brand baked beans and bread is sold in supermarkets?

Don't be daft!