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  1. #11
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    Well, what I have noticed for sure is that it starts and gets up to speed in less time than before (maybe less than a quarter turn, not measured it precisely).

    Bear in mind that I have and upgraded 'Inspire Hifi' platter which has a 1in billet of Aluminium underneath, so considerably heavier.

    So I would say that it has helped the speed control definitely.

    Also since the platter is heavier, as mentioned above I had to adjust the brake to slow the platter down harder. I don't really want to fly wheel the platter for no reason...
    Francois, Bergerac, France
    Source component/s:
    Musical Fidelity M1 Dac, Allo Digi One, Sony SCD-XE800, AVID Ingenium Twin arm, Audio Note Arm One, Groovemaster II 12in, Audio Note IQ3 MM, Denon DL103R MC, Croft Basic 25, TQ Iridium Phonostage, Puresound T10 Stepup Transformer, Zavfino majestic tonearm cable
    Amplification:
    Audio Note OTO PP, Dussun V6i
    Loudspeakers:
    Triangle Comete ES, Klispch RP600M
    Cables/stands:
    Quadraspire, Belden 9497

  2. #12
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    Excellent stuff, Francois! Hope that you feel that the sonic results were worth it

    The only thing I was disappointed about was that you didn't show a picture of the 'externalised' PSU housed nicely in its new case... Any chance we could see a pic of that, so that people can observe how neat it looks after the job has been done?

    Churz!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Thanks Marco, and well spotted, indeed the finished PSU is the only thing I didn't photographed...

    Hopefully these few pix will correct this...





    I used a temporary solution for the feet... Insulating tube from B&Q, it does a pretty good job at isolating the PSU from ambiant vibrations... But some sorbothane pods are on their way!

    I am creating a new post about my impressions on the actual sonic results! So watch this space!
    Francois, Bergerac, France
    Source component/s:
    Musical Fidelity M1 Dac, Allo Digi One, Sony SCD-XE800, AVID Ingenium Twin arm, Audio Note Arm One, Groovemaster II 12in, Audio Note IQ3 MM, Denon DL103R MC, Croft Basic 25, TQ Iridium Phonostage, Puresound T10 Stepup Transformer, Zavfino majestic tonearm cable
    Amplification:
    Audio Note OTO PP, Dussun V6i
    Loudspeakers:
    Triangle Comete ES, Klispch RP600M
    Cables/stands:
    Quadraspire, Belden 9497

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    Nice one, Francois. That makes all the difference, as it shows people what the finished item looks like!

    Yup - would love to know what your impressions are of the sonic improvements gain from the modification, so I look forward to reading about that

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Ready to start on the PSU al la Franky.

    OneyedK - "A lot of decks are equipped with a 470µF/50V, while the schematic still states 1000µF (the correct value)."

    I checked the service manual (PDF on Vinylengine) C1 is listed as 470uf/50v.
    Where are you getting the value of 1000uf from and is it a worthwhile upgrade?

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    Default A quick visual guide to externalising PSU from your Technics SL 1200

    I would go bigger if you can fit it!!!

    Im not looking at the manual but is It's a power supply reservoir (pre regulator) bigger will help to quickly deliver any current pulses needed to stabilise the platter. If you are looking at it from a psu noise point of view, you can always add smaller value caps in parallel to deal with this.

    In my psu I'm using massive mundorf caps pre reg (I think 2 x 22,000uf from memory) and smaller 470uf in the techie.
    Ian
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwin View Post
    I checked the service manual (PDF on Vinylengine) C1 is listed as 470uf/50v.
    Where are you getting the value of 1000uf from and is it a worthwhile upgrade?
    Have a look at the right schematic of the mk2:
    Code:
    http://www.vinylengine.com/ve_downloads/index.php?technics/technics_sl-1200_1210mk2_supp.pdf
    And yes, C1 should be as large as possible (rectifier and transformer should not be overloaded).
    Technics SL-1200 Mk2 recapped / MN bearing / Funk Firm Platter / Denon 103R / Lundahl LL1933
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    Ah - It's in the mkII supplement.

    Still says C1 is 470uf on the ammended parts list but I see the circuit diagram says 1000uf.

    Note the mk IV service manual also shows C1 as 470uf in both the parts list and the circuit diagram. That's confusing

    Thanks for clarifying the point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qwin View Post
    Note the mk IV service manual also shows C1 as 470uf in both the parts list and the circuit diagram. That's confusing
    When you're into mass production (like Technics), certain compromises need to be made.
    In this case, the 1000µF that fitted the original holes/soldering pads was no longer made by Panasonic. Next best thing was to use a 470µF.
    Luckily we're not into mass production
    So we can use any part we want...
    Technics SL-1200 Mk2 recapped / MN bearing / Funk Firm Platter / Denon 103R / Lundahl LL1933
    Thorens TD 126 MkIII / SME Series III / Ortofon SME 30H // AT-OC9ML/II / Lundahl LL1681
    Thorens TD 160 / TP16 / Stanton 681SE

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