Choosing the 'best' turntable and ignoring 'flavours'

**Beechwoods** · 02-04-2009, 17:53

Nice new avatar Dave!

**DSJR** · 02-04-2009, 17:57

I remember that evening very well. Changed my life it did

**Marco** · 02-04-2009, 17:58

Well, that's the Technics SL1210 out then... just look at all the 'additives' in needs just to taste nice!

Indeed, Mikey, but since the reference in this discussion is a modified 1210, not a standard one, your point although correct, is moot

Marco.

P.S Shaun, the only plastic on a 1210 is in the lid!

**Spectral Morn** · 02-04-2009, 18:02

Originally Posted by DSJR

HiFi Dave, I know EXACTLY who you're talking about, and it's the two I had in mind also (phew!!!!! - my reputation's intact - what's left of it......

)

I thought the Cirkus LP12 was a huge improvement, but the sound "darkened" quite noticeably to my ears. The ARO/Geddon made the thing sound like it did in the seventies (a positive step backwards IMO) and I never got to hear one with the Nima, which I think would have been a good match. Like I said, the Spacedeck trounced it anyway (Marco, I know you love the SL1200 series very much, but Tom Fletcher just seems to have a "feel" for what's right in engineering (if not production finish) and his "right" is just so much better than most others IMO and the sound produced by his designs, which are almost immune to what they're located on, is excellent in all the "Linn" areas. Mention an NAS on the Naim forum and one is summarily dismissed as only the "South Midlands Guru" can set up an LP12 properly and any other deck set up by anyone else is inferior.....

What a load off Crap anyone(with lots of TT setup experience)can set up a Linn, heck it was my first. I see Dave from your Avatar you don't have a Linn Jig....that rules you out of the game

One of the best vinyl sounds from the past was a Notingham Mentor Reference which I heard at Vinyl Tube Audio in London WOW.

I should have said that despite that Linn being very good I would not have had the gift of it.

Don't shoot me...

Regards D S D L

**pure sound** · 02-04-2009, 18:11

I like orchestral & piano music. Can someone explain why a turntable that can't play either very well should even be considered as a reference point when there are so many around that will?

**Spectral Morn** · 02-04-2009, 18:13

Hi Guy

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Regards D S D L

**Mike** · 02-04-2009, 18:13

Originally Posted by Marco

Indeed, Mikey, but since the reference in this discussion is a modified 1210, not a standard one, your point although correct, is moot

Yes, modified by adding, err, 'additives'!

I'm unsure what 'issue' this thread is intended to get to the bottom of TBH!

Are we striving for 'flavours' with our turntable choices or simply the revealing of what's on the record with minimal 'artificial additives'?

Hmmm, my opinion would be 'who cares? it's all about getting the most enjoyment'! If that means adding extra salt to suit my palate, then so be it!

**Beechwoods** · 02-04-2009, 18:15

Would a 20 band graphic equaliser to add a bit of oomph count as well

??

**Marco** · 02-04-2009, 18:19

Marco, I know you love the SL1200 series very much...

Dave, nope, correction... I LOVE whatever turntable reproduces the music I LOVE most on vinyl without being aware of the turntable!

*So far* outside of an EMT or SP10, a modified SL-1210 is the only turntable I've heard which allows me to do that. "Love" will always be reserved for the enjoyment of my favourite music, not the turntable which aids the listening process.

Marco.

**hifi_dave** · 02-04-2009, 18:22

Hi Guy, ya'll right ?

Which turntable are you talking about ? You've lost me.

Sorry about using the 'smiley' but Marco told me to use them whenever I can and I'm obeying orders.

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