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    Possibly that could be the case, Richard. I've never owned an SPU so wouldn't know how one is best set-up. I'm glad it's doing the biz for you, though

    As for the 103, I completely agree. 'Tail-up' it can spit like hell, particularly when there is insufficient mass on the arm and/or headshell. The 103 definitely likes to be completely parallel to the record playing surface - in fact, bang on in that respect.

    The Mullard you've got is probably one of the ones I sold Mike before I upgraded to the Telefunkens

    Good though the NOS Mullards are, the Teles, IMO, are considerably better (more open, detailed and dynamic sounding, but not bright - less of a 'signature', if you will). If you'd like to try one pop me a PM

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    The Mullard you've got is probably one of the ones I sold Mike before I upgraded to the Telefunkens
    Nope... scroll up a bit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Good though the NOS Mullards are, the Teles, IMO, are considerably better (more open, detailed and dynamic sounding, but not bright - less of a 'signature', if you will). If you'd like to try one pop me a PM
    Bollock!

    They make the WD88 sound like a bloaty old thing... might be worth a try in a bright system though.
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    Oops, I missed your last post on the previous page

    Hey, I wouldn't know one WAD KT88 amp from the other or what's used in them!

    Still, I'm very surprised that the Teles sounded "bloated"; that's precisely the opposite effect they had in my Croft - the Mullards were bloated in comparison...

    Maybe you had duff Teles!!

    Shows you though how significant the effect of different circuits are and how there is no such thing as the 'perfect' valve for every similar application!

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I'm exaggerating a bit...

    The Telefunken was good valve, it just didn't suit the amp/system/me as well as the Mullard did, seemed a bit too 'full' in the bass dept. Might be different for Richard.
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    It might be... But then perhaps the effect will be different in his system? Sounds like it might be one for him to try out

    "Bloated" is not how the Teles sound chez-moi!! It was probably your Castles

    You've heard my system and know my tastes, matey - I would never use valves which sounded bloated

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I will get round to writing up something about the amp but have been a bit too busy the last few days (and I haven't been at home) but here's another pic anyway...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    It might be... But then perhaps the effect will be different in his system? Sounds like it might be one for him to try out

    "Bloated" is not how the Teles sound chez-moi!! It was probably your Castles


    Marco.
    I'd agree fully with you Marco, my experience with the Telefunks is quite the opposite to bloated! I'd describe the difference between them & the Mullards as comparing a sharp Italian city suit to a 'well lived in' tweed deerstalkers jacket.

    Crisp, sharp, initially impressive (a trait often confused with detailed)..... but ultimately without soul.

    My SP8 loves the flavour of venison!!

    Of course, that's not to say that in a different situation and a different set of ears the Telefunks mightn't suit.

    (No reflection on your roots Marco, my man!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromit View Post
    I will get round to writing up something about the amp but have been a bit too busy the last few days (and I haven't been at home) but here's another pic anyway...
    Great picture... you've got a nice glow going there. It's looks like the northern lights!
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    Hi Chris,

    Hehe... No worries

    Crisp, sharp, initially impressive (a trait often confused with detailed)..... but ultimately without soul.
    I completely agree with you regarding the Teles - that's exactly what I found in my system: they were uber-detailed and 'neutral' sounding, but ultimately rather 'cold', and yes, lacking in 'soul', which is why I changed them for the NOS military spec Tesla E83CC 'frame grids' as these had the neutrality of the Teles but gave music more of its natural colour and timbre.

    So far, the Teslas are the best ECC83/12AX7-type valve I've heard, but I'm shortly going to be road-testing some EAT 803S from Pistol Music, which are supposed to be the ultimate (at a price!), so we'll see how they compare to the Teslas

    How Mikey found the Teles "bloated" sounding is anyone's guess!!

    Rich, seriously cool shot of the famous 'KT88 glow'

    I hope you're enjoying 'life in bottles'

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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