A Dalek visits A falcoron

[John]

Looking at the picture I think they might need a bit more space from the back wall. I have mine a meter away from rear walls

[Spectral Morn]

I saw it on closer inspection but my edit clashed with your reply, my comment on space at the sides still stands though.

I agree re more space. I asked Ron if he had pulled them clear of the back wall. He said he had but didn't hear much difference. I think that without them being finished and EQ set up, fine tuning by setting them up in the room is a waste of time as the course anomalies caused by the lack of proper EQ - Ron has tried but the unit that does this is pretty complex and requires an expert hand - and the structural aspects that need finished will swamp the room set up nullifying it.

[Marco]

Nice write-up and pics, Neil. An interesting system, too! Looks like you guys had a good time. I would encourage others to hold these types of bake-offs in their local area, as it's a good way of growing the community

Excellent stuff!

Marco.

[falcoron]

Thanks Neil and to everyone else, im in work presently but will reply to all the posts when i get home.
Ron

[falcoron]

Hey - it is nice to put a face to a name. Ron and I have swapped PMs on many an occasion!

Fab looking gear - those speakers look great!

And how did the Micromega CDT fare against Ron's computer audio doodads? Or was a direct comparison not done?

Hi Jerry, nice and face are not 2 words i usually hear mate but i know what you mean

thanks for the comments

[falcoron]

Ok,back home after work,
Firstly, i had a great evening and was sorry it ended, great music and honest comments are always welcome here. It is difficult to share stuff especially when its home made and not 100% finished yet. Its daunting having your pride and joy apraised with the chance they may get totally slated. A bit of work to do on the rear plinths,wiring and connections. Need to get my head around the EQ too as i dont have a clue and no matter what i read i can't get to grips with it. I really need help and someone who knows how to do this for me so i'm on the lookout ( anyone near please mail me)
The room is not perfect either there is a lot of stuff in there that hums along at times, but as i stated to Neil its a living room for a busy working family and my music is of interest to me only, no-one shares my tastes or passion so it difficult to get the time and space to really go to town, but i have a great wife who by and large gives me my space.
So positioning is something i will have to live with as these are big and dominate the room already. I have moved them about and didn't get any great change not enough for me to make the room a hi fi dem room where no-one can move around in. But will experiment more when i get them finished.
i have no doubt when i get these at their best they will be better than i've heard to date, i'm already very smitten with them and from time to time i play a track that just gels with these and its magical. So to the few that say OB can't do deep bass, Balls! they can, do and with more weight that most, controlling it is the issue.
I have an idea to make the bases from granite (the ply ones on now are temp only and not fixed as it where) so a bit of tweakery there. I may or may not mass load the tubing that will be down to the EQ i can get and the room correction, i think when i get these right i will have a special pair of speakers that will do justice to the work its taken and the cost, which was not cheap but very enjoyable to do and thats what matters in this old gloomy world isn't it?
thanks again to Neil for giving up a Friday night and travel over for a listen and for his gear he lugged over to.
Did the transport sound better than the SQ touch? yes it did, not massive but better all the same, i have a soft spot for Micromega top loaders as i once owned the fantastic but short lived Aria ref i bought new from Shadow Audio and was first in the contry to own it, still missed to this day. So to conclude if you have hankered after something different and want the satisfaction of doing it yourself start a pair of OB speakers you will never miss that boxey sound again. Glad i could share my work and system with so many.
Just to add these are now in place of my much adored and i do mean adored Living Voice Avatar II Nuff said!
Ron

[MartinT]

Its daunting having your pride and joy apraised with the chance they may get totally slated.

Amen to that, Ron. However I learned some years ago that honest input from other enthusiasts is extremely valuable and can often point you in a direction towards better sound. That and the camaraderie and sharing great music are what make these sessions so enjoyable for me.

Glad you and Neil enjoyed yours.

[jandl100]

Hi Jerry, nice and face are not 2 words i usually hear mate but i know what you mean

thanks for the comments

ha ha - yeah, well -- I didn't like to say anything ....

[falcoron]

ha ha - yeah, well -- I didn't like to say anything ....

you could get barred you know.

[Clive]

Need to get my head around the EQ

I've a splitting headache and a chest infection so I'll be brief! It's hard to type and cough at the same time....

You may or may not need EQ to help cure some resonances due to the room dimensions. Where you will need EQ is from around 63Hz downwards, adding around 6db. This is because the baffle is narrow so the bass tails off, adding 6db replaces the loss and prevents you needing a 4ft wide baffle.