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  1. #41
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    @MartinH ah sorry mate I didn't see you post, I think I was typing my response! Exactly the info I need though. I will cycle to maplins tomorrow and purchase some resistors then.
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    @keith that xtz room analyser is £150 though. I wonder if I can get something to work with a cheap mic.
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  3. #43
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    Ok, I'm back. Strop over

    If you have a tablet, you can buy a decent RTA software for a few quid. I use Pocket RTA HD for iPad. The iPad built-in mic is OK for rough measurements, but a proper calibrated USB mic is best. I have a Samson Meteor mic (£60) which is one of the only ones to work with the iPad and not need an external PSU/Hub. I also got some mp3 test tones from the internet.

    The 5, 7 or 10W wirewound ones are the ones to buy - just grab a selection (2 of each) and have a play. I think I settled on 2.7 ohms myself.

    Will, yes I thought that the resistors would go in the +Ve speaker side, but inspection of my crossover circuit showed that they needed to go in the 0V see circuit below. I guess it depends upon your speakers.



    Cheers,
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  4. #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinh View Post
    Ok, I'm back. Strop over

    Will, yes I thought that the resistors would go in the +Ve speaker side, but inspection of my crossover circuit showed that they needed to go in the 0V see circuit below. I guess it depends upon your speakers.

    Cheers,
    Hi Martin, I have to confess that I did mine with the help of a 'grown up', in this case 'Wilmslow Audio' who are close by and very helpful...

    I'd bought a couple of pairs of used Mission 780SE's (bi-wired) with knackered bass drivers, and their advice was to use some Monacor drivers as replacements, however on closer inspection the originals were rated at 6 ohms, the replacements at 8, hence a rather bright sound (i.e. the tweeters were 6 too)...

    £2.00 & about 10 mins later all was sorted with these little fellows, and in the case of the Missions, at the +ve terminal seems to work nicely...
    Cheers, Will

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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesw View Post
    @keith that xtz room analyser is £150 though. I wonder if I can get something to work with a cheap mic.
    Giles ask nicely on all the forums and you may be able to borrow one,
    KR Keith.
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    Hi Keith,

    Sorry to butt-in, but could you do me a favour and add your approx geographical location to your profile? Everyone needs these details in now.

    Cheers, matey!

    Marco.
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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

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  7. #47
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    Looks like there are various android apps that do spectral analysis so I'm going to try them.
    Lounge: Diskstation NAS --> RPI Volumio --> m2tech young --> GD1500HD --> Pioneer LX57 --> hypex ncore n400 -> Vandamme hifi cable -- > IPL acoustics S2TLP CD3
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    Quote Originally Posted by gilesw View Post
    Looks like there are various android apps that do spectral analysis so I'm going to try them.
    My one concern would be the bandwidth of the mic on an android phone, from what I've read they only cover approx 300hz to 3khz, as their designed for speech, perhaps on a larger tablet with a mic in....
    Cheers, Will

  9. #49
    Join Date: May 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Keith,

    Sorry to butt-in, but could you do me a favour and add your approx geographical location to your profile? Everyone needs these details in now.

    Cheers, matey!

    Marco.
    Done!
    Thanks Marco,
    KR Keith.
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    Cheers, dude!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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