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    Neal,

    Quote Originally Posted by NRG View Post
    everyones a critic and an 'expert' to boot
    I have been in the graphic design, advertising, typesetting and publishing business since 1978. And I appreciate if the audio equipment I use not only sounds good, but is easy on the eye.



    What do you think is the reason a profession like Industrial Designer even exists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Werner Berghofer View Post
    What do you think is the reason a profession like Industrial Designer even exists?
    Agreed Werner and a large part of the reason for Apples success are Jonathan Ive's designs (sorry Sir Jonathan) - good design can make or break a product


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    Werner

    Quote Originally Posted by Werner Berghofer View Post
    Neal,



    I have been in the graphic design, advertising, typesetting and publishing business since 1978. And I appreciate if the audio equipment I use not only sounds good, but is easy on the eye. What do you think is the reason a profession like Industrial Designer even exists?

    Werner.
    Opinions vary remember?
    Some much loved kit is as ugly as sin, but other opinions think it looks great.

    Its all opinion, your just stating yours
    No absolutes when it comes to the aesthetic.
    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    A profession like an Industrial Designer does not come cheap. I've worked in the Industry too.
    Hifi is notorious for adding extra bling and adding £00's on to the final cost.

    Different market sectors have different priorities, Stans is giving us plebs best bang for buck.

    Werner
    He's bringing out a new Dac and you've liked (and bought) many of his previous products, lets not condemn it before the new one is even out?

    with respect,
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    Last edited by Gazjam; 29-05-2012 at 17:39.
    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    I think it looks great. Should have held off getting my Caiman! It definitely looks like a statement piece Stan.
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    Thanks for all the helpful comments and pointers with regards to improving the appearance of the printing on the front fascia . I shall take note of the various suggestions and discuss with the printers about implementing the changes that are the most popular and easiest to execute. This will take some time of course, so don't expect any of them to be available overnight.

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    Gary,

    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    lets not condemn it before the new one is even out?
    I can’t speak neither about the DAC nor about the headphone section, I have no idea how they perform. What I do here is expressing my opinion about the design, typographic details, shape of the buttons and differently coloured LEDs as shown on the prototype’s photo Stan published here.

    Of course there are no absolutes when it comes to the aesthetic, but I think “Less is more” is a pretty good design principle.

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    Last edited by Werner Berghofer; 30-05-2012 at 07:21.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
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    Hifi is notorious for adding extra bling and adding £00's on to the final cost.
    Like gold plating to the 4 bolts on the facia

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    If you guys will just permit me to put my oar in here, let's not forget that Werner is doing us the favour of communicating with us in what is to him a foreign language. Therefore his comments may not be said with the same choice of words that we 'natives' may use, which, when not allowed for, might put a different 'tone' on the message to the one that was intended.
    IMHO Werner's opinions on audio matters are widely respected on AoS and, given his background, his opinions on the design of audio equipment should be treated with the same respect. Just consider what any Industrial Design Consultant (with probably less relevant experience than Werner) would charge for the opinion Werner offered for free.
    As with all advice, Stan is free to use it or not, as he sees fit.
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    I'd be happy with a simple "Beresford" on the front....we all know what it is,and what it is for,and even,what it is supposed to do.
    Eye candy doesent make it perform any better.....there again,maybe to some

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