Site Owner/Administrator
Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK
Posts: 110,994
I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.
Interesting, Simon... So bang goes the theory that more breaks in the signal path in tonearms (audibly) degrades sonic performance, which takes us back to what we were discussing earlier, and that there are far more important and influential aspects of tonearm design to worry about getting right!
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
AV Room Forum Leader / Spaced Out
Location: North Cambs UK, Earth, Sol, Orion - Cygnus arm of galaxy
Posts: 11,165
I'm MadeOfDeadGiantStarsThatExplodedEonsAgo.
Has anyone received one of these cables yet?
That's a whole lot of waffle & no action
Bests, Mark
"We must believe in free will. We have no choice"Isaac Bashevis Singer
Trade: Wakefield Turntables
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 9,794
I'm Andrew.
Some very valid points there my friend cant argue with them.Originally Posted by Marco
Hi Andrew,
There's no need to do that if you only have one cartridge. Some us, though, have half a dozen or more, all set-up to go in separate headshells, so having a tonearm with a detachable headshell makes it much easier to swap between them!
Quite often it's nice hearing an alternative 'take' on your favourite music, offered by a cartridge with a rather different sonic presentation from your usual choice, especially when you can access that pleasure in a matter of minutes (sometimes seconds)
Like I said, it's a non-issue if you just have one cartridge. Once said cartridge is successfully installed in position, it's 'fit and forget', no matter whether your tonearm has a fixed headshell or not.
However, fitting the cartridge in the first place is a damn sight easier when you can remove the headshell from the arm!
Indeed. Out with of discussing the matter here, I don't worry about such things in the slightest!
Marco.
Thanks mate!Here, here...
Ahhh.. We agree on something then!
YES!!!!!! I've been waiting for mine because its got some added bling on it! So, with a little luck I should have mine in next few days and I'll send out a report.Has anyone received one of these cables yet?
That's a whole lot of waffle & no action
SS
CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10
VALVE / MONO
PRE Croft Epoch(Modded) AMP Sondex S100 (Modded) SPEAKERS Tannoy 15"MG+RFC Warwick cabs+ Ref XO + Batpure supertweeters DECK Garrard 301 Mat Teunto Bearings 401(Bastin) Plinth Bamboo Arms 3009/3012 PSU Eagle+Tachometer MC Ag Meister II/FGS + Ortofon SPU MONO CABLES Arm Yannis 420.5 Litz+ SpeakerPC Tripple C+WBT-0681 Ag IC Oyaide FTVS-510 AgWBT 0110Ag Phonostages Paradise(4 Box Mega-Modded) / Croft Musicmaker
AV Room Forum Leader / Spaced Out
Location: North Cambs UK, Earth, Sol, Orion - Cygnus arm of galaxy
Posts: 11,165
I'm MadeOfDeadGiantStarsThatExplodedEonsAgo.
Excellent, about time toHere's hoping the cable is as tasty sounding as it looks!
Bests, Mark
"We must believe in free will. We have no choice"
Site Owner/Administrator
Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK
Posts: 110,994
I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.
Did you miss my posts #72 and #143, daftee, where the cable has not only been received but also (partially) reviewed?Has anyone received one of these cables yet?
That's a whole lot of waffle & no action
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
AV Room Forum Leader / Spaced Out
Location: North Cambs UK, Earth, Sol, Orion - Cygnus arm of galaxy
Posts: 11,165
I'm MadeOfDeadGiantStarsThatExplodedEonsAgo.
Probably yes Marco, I guess I must have done or I wouldn't have typed what I did
I'm looking forward to your review when your cables/s get to you, after all (& I haven't looked before you ask) I'm not sure I'd know who reviewed them or know to trust their ears
Bests, Mark
"We must believe in free will. We have no choice"
Site Owner/Administrator
Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK
Posts: 110,994
I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.
No worries, dude. There will be a full comparison between the less expensive '428 Phono' and the more upmarket '432.5' version, both fitted with 'fancy' plugs, as soon as they arrive
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
Trade: Radlett Audio
Location: Near Saffron Walden, Essex
Posts: 7,367
I'm Dave.
Do you mean SME 3009 fixed v detachable ? If so, then yes I have done a few times and to be honest, I would struggle to hear any difference. Neither was better or worse, just a teensy, weensy bit different.I totally agree, Dave. Have you ever done the comparison with an SME 3009, as outlined above?
Marco.
When I eventually pack up selling Hi-Fi and have just the one system (), I will use my TD124 with FR-64S tonearm.
Oh and 250 different cartridges..
Senior Member
Location: Devon
Posts: 1,903
I'm stu.
Do you mean SME 3009 fixed v detachable ? If so, then yes I have done a few times and to be honest, I would struggle to hear any difference. Neither was better or worse, just a teensy, weensy bit different.
When I eventually pack up selling Hi-Fi and have just the one system (
Oh and 250 different cartridges..
Would be more than happy with that combo.
Borrowed a friends 124 with 12" ortofon and spu.
It is sounding very good indeed.
301/Puresound 2A3/quite large Grf cab horny ones.Eminence/Coral/Le cleach
Senior Member
Location: A Strangely Isolated Place in Suffolk with Far Away Trains Passing By...
Posts: 14,540
I'm David.
I don't remember ever doing a straight a-b on these two, but certainly in isolation but on similar turntables and using suitable cartridges, I wouldn't say any difference at all really mattered. Wasn't the fixed shell mainly to further reduce mass, which was what "everyone" was chasing back then - forty years ago now as the Improved arm came out in 1972 IIRC...
I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
