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  1. #51
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    Mod done, took 5 seconds, then 3 days for the jumpers to arrive through the post. Its a bit difficult to describe any changes i'm hearing cos i'm still getting used to my new cart. I would say that the soundstage seems more defined and maybe a little more stable. As other people have said, every little helps. I'll be removing the pitch slider from the 1210 once and for all. Soon they'll be nothing left under the hood!
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  2. #52
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    hi andrew so you will be removing the pitch slider and filling this as i have will you please post when you have done this to say weather you think there is any more improvement cheers

  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by moodybuilder View Post
    hi andrew so you will be removing the pitch slider and filling this as i have will you please post when you have done this to say weather you think there is any more improvement cheers

    NO! Thats exactly what I wont be doing as its a waste of my time and money (no disrespect mate ). I have a much bigger project planned when I get some time for the chassis. This is where my time and money will be going
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    CD Teac VRDS25X(Audiotuned) DECK 1210 Mat Crystal Audio Mods MN Base/Bearing/Platter+Ebony armboard Feet Isonoe PSU Paul Hynes SR7EHD-27XL/DCSXL Ag DC lead/3 Stage Regs/Recap PCB+No Pitch/Strobe/Light ARM SME V(Kondo Ag Rewire&Tags) MC Cadenza Black FGS CABLES Arm Yannis SPD-4 IC Yannis 222 Litz+Ag bullets Power WAR PRE ATC SCA2 SPEAKERS ATC 50ASL STANDS Atacama PHONO Sugden Masterclass PA4 SUT Ortofon ST80SE POWER PSAudio P10

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  4. #54
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    Did this mod last night because removing even the slightest bit of imparted noise is going to help. Easy peasy, took literally a minute or two. Can't evaluate just yet as I did it at the same time as revisting cartridge set up with protractor etc so still need to adjust vta and get the sweetspot back first. Not sure why but I thought that this mod also disabled the illuminated blue pitch numbers above and below the green LED on the MK5g and not just the green LED. Does anyone know how to disable the blue lights on the MK5g my thinking is that this too will remove another imparted layer ?

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    Hi Robert,

    Not sure why but I thought that this mod also disabled the illuminated blue pitch numbers above and below the green LED on the MK5g and not just the green LED.
    Is that not the case, then? That's what I'd hoped would happen on my MK5G, but I haven't done the mod yet.

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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Robert,



    Is that not the case, then? That's what I'd hoped would happen on my MK5G, but I haven't done the mod yet.

    Marco.
    Hi Marco, funny enough I was gonna give you a shout as I know you too have the MK5g and would be definately interested in this. Unless I've done it wrong, which I'm sure I havn't as I've followed exactly as pictures and instruction, then it only outs the green LED in the middle of the other blue lights on our MK5g. If I've definately done this right then I'd like to find out how we can also disable those blue lights cause they must be pushing out a fair bit of noise too would be my guess .

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    Indeed. The goal for me, was to cut all of the lights completely. I'd forgotten that the other guys who've done this only have MKIIs....

    Still, one light gone I guess is better than nothing!

    Has anyone done this mod on a MK5G?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  8. #58
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    can some whos done this mod on a MK5 please post a picture so i can see the difference of this and the MK2, thanks

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    "M5G comes with an all digital pitch control"

    Technics SL1200 M5G pitch control PCB:


    Technics SL1200 MkII pitch control PCB:


    Sorry, this is quite different than MkII! Do you have service manual for them? I couldn't find it. You can try to disconnect all the wires that come from the PCB... But I'm not sure what connections to short with this one.

    It seems that Technics SL1200 MK5 has a different pitch control PCB:


    But mod / removal should work just as with MkII - just unplug it and short the middle connectors on the main PCB.
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  10. #60
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    Cheers Blaz, I may well just get the platter off again and take a look to see how its connected up etc. Would be great if it was just another case of slipping one of the cap things over a particular point as was for disabling the green LED. Anyone else have an idea ?? Would be much appreciated

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