Stands and sound quality

[JJack]

It's just MDF that's painted red, but well-done. I inherited it from an audio buddy who went to a high-end setup.

[jostber]

The upcoming issue of HiFi Critic will discuss this subject in detail. Written by Paul Messenger.

[worrasf]

It's about dotting the I's and crossing the T's, attending to the (seemingly) small details, which often turn out to have a large sonic influence, adopting lateral thinking in the process and being willing to experiment, using the knowledge gained to form valid opinions, and not simply having the mindset of buying the best equipment one can afford and assuming that this alone will guarantee the best sound, which rarely proves to be the case.

Marco.

So true. The issue for many I suspect is that this approach takes time and patience and does not suit the psyche of the "throw money at it and fit and forget brigade" who invariably haven't a clue about what they are trying to achieve (just my personal opponion of course). I have just spent many hours (I'm on leave) experimenting with stands and supports for my JR 149's - including making custom solid wood top plates and trying 3 different types/sizes/shapes of sorbothane - with and without top spikes etc etc. in all probably spent 7 or 8 hours but the changes all made a distinct difference to the sound - some good and some not so good. I've opted for 3 large sorbothane blocks placed on top of the Kan II stands with the JR 149's directly on top. This gives the cleanest bass and best PRaT - other combinations sounded muddy and veiled. So as Marco opines little things can and do have significant sonic effects but be prepared to spend time. Regarding supports best example of sonic effects was when I had an LP12 - Sound Advice my old dealer in Brum sourced a couple of solid wood open top tables based on the Linn jig - the deck sat in a shallow recess in the top - the entire base board was accessible from below - sounded better than anything else at any price but would probably make a Techy sound pants.
Steve

[JJack]

So true. The issue for many I suspect is that this approach takes time and patience and does not suit the psyche of the "throw money at it and fit and forget brigade" who invariably haven't a clue about what they are trying to achieve (just my personal opponion of course). I have just spent many hours (I'm on leave) experimenting with stands and supports for my JR 149's - including making custom solid wood top plates and trying 3 different types/sizes/shapes of sorbothane - with and without top spikes etc etc. in all probably spent 7 or 8 hours but the changes all made a distinct difference to the sound - some good and some not so good. I've opted for 3 large sorbothane blocks placed on top of the Kan II stands with the JR 149's directly on top. This gives the cleanest bass and best PRaT - other combinations sounded muddy and veiled. So as Marco opines little things can and do have significant sonic effects but be prepared to spend time. Regarding supports best example of sonic effects was when I had an LP12 - Sound Advice my old dealer in Brum sourced a couple of solid wood open top tables based on the Linn jig - the deck sat in a shallow recess in the top - the entire base board was accessible from below - sounded better than anything else at any price but would probably make a Techy sound pants.
Steve

Well, but let's be fair.

This isn't an issue of me "throwing money" at a system. I carefully auditioned my system and built it over the span of two months, as I've noted elsewhere.

Let's not assume that I "haven't a clue" or assume that I belong to one side of a debate or another.

Let's assume a different set of facts: assume I was quite careful in component matching. Assume further that that I have, from time to time, tried different (but competent) equipment stands, and have heard no difference whatsover.

Assume that I'm happy and that I'm happy that you're happy with the way you spend your time on this hobby

[synsei]

Well, but let's be fair.

This isn't an issue of me "throwing money" at a system. I carefully auditioned my system and built it over the span of two months, as I've noted elsewhere.

Let's not assume that I "haven't a clue" or assume that I belong to one side of a debate or another.

Let's assume a different set of facts: assume I was quite careful in component matching. Assume further that that I have, from time to time, tried different (but competent) equipment stands, and have heard no difference whatsover.

Assume that I'm happy and that I'm happy that you're happy with the way you spend your time on this hobby

That's a candidate for 'reply of the week' right there, you should be a diplomat sir...

[bobbasrah]

+1
And for almost ANY given subject......

[worrasf]

Well, but let's be fair.

This isn't an issue of me "throwing money" at a system. I carefully auditioned my system and built it over the span of two months, as I've noted elsewhere.

Let's not assume that I "haven't a clue" or assume that I belong to one side of a debate or another.

Let's assume a different set of facts: assume I was quite careful in component matching. Assume further that that I have, from time to time, tried different (but competent) equipment stands, and have heard no difference whatsover.

Assume that I'm happy and that I'm happy that you're happy with the way you spend your time on this hobby

Fair enough M8 but I refer you to the first line of my post - "the issue for MANY I suspect" etc etc. so safe to assume not targeted at any individual
I happen to think your speaker stands look the must nuts and I'm only to aware of the unintended consequences of my OCD

Steve

[JJack]

Easy to be diplomatic on AoS because people aren't angry about hi-fi, as on other boards.

Cheers,
JJ

[worrasf]

Easy to be diplomatic on AoS because people aren't angry about hi-fi, as on other boards.

Cheers,
JJ

+1
It's only a hobby - people are dying in Homs!

Steve

[Reid Malenfant]

I happen to think your speaker stands look the must nuts

Yes I just noticed them as well Very nice looking stands indeed

They look the business