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Thread: New Ortofon RS-212D tonearm, chez Marco

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    Yes to the last question, although my new SPU may not have arrived yet. It will depend if it gets to the dealer's shop by tomorrow afternoon. If not, we'll be using one of your cartridges on the Ortofon, which will be just as interesting!

    No, I haven't committed yet to the Homage - yup, want to hear your Hashimoto first

    Just off out, chaps. Will respond to other replies later....

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I am interested in as well to hear your thoughts of the Ortofon, especially how it compares sonically to your old Jelco.
    My Gear

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    Garrard 401 in a solid birch plywood plinth / Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro / ESCo modified Denon DL-103
    Pioneer TX-9800 tuner
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    Art Audio Diavolo and Conductor, Pair of XTZ Sub Amp 1's, Nick G 'Dual Phono' phono stage
    Loudspeakers:
    Bastanis Mandala Atlas with 15" sealed woofers
    Cables:
    Analysis Plus: Big Silver Oval speaker cables and Silver Oval-in interconnects, Mark Grant DSP 2.5 Dual Screened power cables
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    Hi Paul,

    Hope this is as good as it looks Marco. The cheaper Ortofon arm I believe is similar to the Jelco but this looks in another league. It would be interesting to compare with the SME arms of a similar price.
    Indeed... The RS-212D is £2100: http://www.audioaffair.co.uk/Ortofon...m/product_2703

    So what's that, SME IV territory?

    I didn't go for the Ortofon TA-110 (the one you're referring to) for the very reason you mention. It's basically a glorified Jelco SA750 - the RS-212D is rather more serious

    I think the Project X was reviewed by World some time ago but may be mistaken. Beobloke may be able to advise on this and it's quality.
    Ah, I see. No doubt that Adam will advise. I wonder if it was with the 12" RS-212D arm, though?

    They also positively reviewed the Frickert which I believe has DD like pitch stability. Another similar looking TT is the new Dunlop/Systemdeck. Getting to see/hear these is not easy these days due to limited dealership and lack of show attendance. One reason I have skipped shows in recent years as the range of exhibitors is limited or of limited interest. (unless you can afford trip to Munich or Singapore).
    Not heard any of those T/Ts, but I know what you mean about shows. These days I can't really be arsed with shows (other than Scalford), as I'm not the slightest bit interested in mainstream hi-fi, and so the small 'boutique' brands and 'oddball' gear I like are rarely represented, or not represented enough to pique my interest in attending.

    I'd love to go to the Munich show, though, one year - and I will do that some day!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    SME IV is £1647 retail inc VAT.

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    Hi Simon,

    Quote Originally Posted by sq225917 View Post
    Is it made by jelco?
    Yes, I believe so, but to a much higher standard of construction than the tonearms that they sell under their own name

    Juha, you'll be reading all about it soon - don't worry!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hifi_dave View Post
    SME IV is £1647 retail inc VAT.
    Ah, so how much as an SME V, then, Dave?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Paul,

    Not heard any of those T/Ts, but I know what you mean about shows. These days I can't really be arsed with shows (other than Scalford), as I'm not the slightest bit interested in mainstream hi-fi, and so the small 'boutique' brands and 'oddball' gear I like are rarely represented, or not represented enough to pique my interest in attending.

    I'd love to go to the Munich show, though, one year - and I will do that some day!

    Marco.
    Should get my spelling right -now corrected. Here is a link to thread on the new Systemdek produced by Doug Dunlops sons.
    http://www.vinylengine.com/turntable...ic.php?t=27208
    Nice thing about these they take 12" arms. Something Mitchell haven't been able to do though Dave Cawley came up with a mod for fitting the 12" Jelco. Whatever happened to that eh ? -and he doesn't do Jelco now. Not enough profit !! Pehaps I'm Cynical. SME charge an extra 5K for the privilege of being able to accomodate their 12" arms on their own TT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Ah, so how much as an SME V, then, Dave?

    Marco.
    Over 2K + VAT
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    Those Ortofon arms looks gorgeous!

    You keeping the 'old' SPU GM, Marco or have you moved it on?
    Richard.

    Round & round bits: LP12/Cirkus/Kore/Herc II/Roksan Nima/Hana EL
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    Making it louder bits: Phonostage: Dynavector P75 Amp: Cyrus 8vs/PSX-R Speakers: Royd Sintra II
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