Paul Hynes DC Cable for SL-1210

[JazzBones]

Please could you do this test as I have a Time Step HE as well and I would really like to know how it measures up against Paul's work.

Will do Andrew, but I'm going to install the MN BBP first when it arrives and then get me a new Multimeter (digital) as my present one, although good, is an anolog effort. As an aside, I don't know whether you got a chance to listen to the Timestep Evo 1200 at Whittlebury but it did sound very good although all the add ons to the stock 1200 could be done yourself at a reduced costing as apart from the TS HE PSU, everything else is an after market add on. I was sold on the AT 33EV pickup cartridge and I intend to replace my OC9Mk2 with one.
The Funk version alongside the Evo did not convince me both in sound and looks, but it may others. This is just me folks, but I thought the charcol black acrylic platter made the overall effect look plasticty, but as I have said, thats purely my own observation.

Cheers
Ron

[JazzBones]

I don't know for sure but I decided that this Techie was never going to be returned to original so I went the whole way and bonded the base plate to the chassis and tightened up the bolts once and for all. At least I know that the MN bearing could not have a more solid foundation.

Martin, this is something that I would like to do myself, viz: permanently bond the BBP to the chassis proper... don't see the point of going back to the stock.
Did you smear the entire contact area twix BBP and chassis or did you use the blob method, also whats the time scale before everything sets hard and forevermore?

Now, my apologies to all for drifting this thread away from the PH silver DC cable.
I think Russ Andrews does a kimber weave silver lead that I could make my own one up; on second thinking, this might cost mucho more?

Thanks again for your help

Ron

[Wakefield Turntables]

Martin, this is something that I would like to do myself, viz: permanently bond the BBP to the chassis proper... don't see the point of going back to the stock.
Did you smear the entire contact area twix BBP and chassis or did you use the blob method, also whats the time scale before everything sets hard and forevermore?

Now, my apologies to all for drifting this thread away from the PH silver DC cable.
I think Russ Andrews does a kimber weave silver lead that I could make my own one up; on second thinking, this might cost mucho more?

Thanks again for your help

Ron

Ron,

Mike New has actually documented somewhere on the forum how he bonded his 1210 just like the way you would like to do your. Finally, you can buy silver + teflon very cheaply ofif fleabay and do the job yourself. All my kit is now more or less running very high purity silver. I bought somemore last night to make another mains cable Some say that Furutech XLR's plug are very good, I'm still yet to be sold. I use bog standard maplins silver plated XLR's and they are very good and only cost £4 a piece.

[DSJR]

I did take the chance (as I don't remove the platter too often) to tighten the bolts into the base plate and lubricate the bearing. It's all working beautifully

You are aware that this alone *may* have made a difference all on its own?

[Marco]

Hi Andrew,

Some say that Furutech XLR's plug are very good, I'm still yet to be sold.

You need to apply some lateral thinking and move from concentrating solely on the contact integrity and conductor purity of the pins on the chosen XLR plug, and also consider the resonant/vibrational properties of the connector housing, and how associated vibrational energy transfers to equipment, via the conduit of the connecting DC cable and its terminated connector (in this case an XLR plug), and thus muddies the sound....

Clue: the strips of carbon-fibre on the Furutech XLR plugs aren't simply there to look pretty! Think about it... They exist to control resonance.

The reason I use Furutech carbon-fibre technology connectors, in mains power applications throughout my system, is because they are extremely effective in terms of dealing with the above issue, and thus sonically superb.

Marco.

[Marco]

You are aware that this alone *may* have made a difference all on its own?

I don't don't own an MN bearing base plate, or its associated allen bolts, yet can confirm, beyond question, that Paul's solid-silver DC cable is a significant no-brainer sonic upgrade for the modified Techy

Marco.

[Wakefield Turntables]

Hi Andrew,



You need to apply some lateral thinking and move from concentrating solely on the contact integrity and conductor purity of the pins on the chosen XLR plug, and also consider the resonant/vibrational properties of the connector housing, and how associated vibrational energy transfers to equipment, via the conduit of the connecting DC cable and its terminated connector (in this case an XLR plug), and thus muddies the sound....

Clue: the strips of carbon-fibre on the Furutech XLR plugs aren't simply there to look pretty! Think about it... They exist to control resonance.

The reason I use Furutech carbon-fibre technology connectors, in mains power applications throughout my system, is because they are extremely effective in terms of dealing with the above issue, and thus sonically superb.

Marco.

Marco,

I have a masters degree in biomechanics so the concepts that you explain are pretty simple concepts. There are far better ways of controlling resonance than carbon fibre. It would be better to make the whole XLR casing out of non magnetic stainless steel rather than the metal/carbon fibre design furutech employ. Stiffness would be uniform. I respect furutech and do use some of there components in my own power cables but I just think that you pay a lot for something which can be very easily bettered. Carbon fibre is less stiffer than stainless steel, so i cant see why they use it. A material of perfect and infinite stiffness would be the best material for resonance control, thats why hi-fi companies use stainless steel and speaker designers like B&W use diamond in there designs to limit vibration and resonance.

I fully understand getting rid of resonance is a key element. It would be far simpler to house high purity pins in something which is non-metallic, non resonant and extremely stiff. Hence getting the best of both worlds with no vibration / resonance to the XLR pins whilst ejecting RFI and EMI. My new balanced IC's are solder free so the issue of contact integrity is something I have removed. I've designed my own XLR's with continuous runs of very high purity silver. You need a £17K laser to be able to do this

I'm still in the process of designing some housing, once finished I'll post pics for all to see. But, for those that dont want to go as far as i have gone I would still recommend the maplin & ebay silver & teflon. There is nothing wrong with your reasoning and think your spot on but and your solution is a very highend way of controlling the various external variables which can effect cabling. Hope this gets you into my reasoning,

No disrespect mate!

[MartinT]

Did you smear the entire contact area twix BBP and chassis or did you use the blob method, also whats the time scale before everything sets hard and forevermore?

The former - a light but even contact area. I left it for 24 hours and it was never going to come apart again.

[MartinT]

You are aware that this alone *may* have made a difference all on its own?

Yes, I'm aware of that. I do try to qualify my findings and you won't see me describe 'night and day' differences unless that's what I hear.

[Marco]

Hi Andrew,

Lol - no disrespect taken. It's all about opinions. I do what I do because I don't have the technical skills or patience you have

And I wouldn't doubt a word you have written, but the proof of the pudding is in the listening, and the Furutech carbon-fibre technology connectors (I'm not just talking here about the XLR plugs) are the best commercial products I've used so far.

I also use their IEC mains connectors throughout my system, and have tested otherwise identical mains leads, with 'ordinary' non-carbon fibre technology Furutech IEC plugs on them, swapped them for FI-50s, and the performance difference between both mains leads was frankly staggering, with the FI-50-equipped ones being significantly sonically superior!!

Theories are all well and good, but it's practical listening experience that ultimately matters most

However, if you've managed to design comparably good plugs yourself, then I would truly love to do a comparison with the Furutechs sometime

Marco.