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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    I've tried adding absorbing materials but I prefer the live sound of the room, I think it's the OB reflections that give such a realistic experience, too much absorption make them sound like box speaker, which is ok, but not the point.

    There is a big (8ft x 4ft) green baize covered notice board opposite the speakers, this seems to work well, not that the colour will make any difference. I've found that the area behind the speakers needs to be very live. Along one side of the room I have all my CDs and the records go half the length of the room. I feel I have the LEDE right, certainly it's critical to get right, the most important are with OBs being what's behind them and their distance from the rear wall.


    If you gently tone down any reflections at all, do it at the listening position rather than the speaker end, unless the sound takes off there. This is more like sitting in an audience position at a venue and sounds more natural than damping out the speaker end of the room only.

    The big dem room at KJ had the wall behind the speakers almost totally deadened and the only speakers which really benefitted from this are the ML Electrostatic hybrids, which sounded unusually good there. Everything else sounded a bit muted to me..
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Sorry - don't know where that thumbs down came from

    I started to follow the advice about absorbion behind the speakers and also found it took the life out of the sound.

    I prefer a live room, wooden floor with a rug and some treatment at first reflections and rear corners, though I have room openings at either side of both speakers.

    I made open treatments either side of the listening position with a bale of insulation covered in black cotton fabric and set it behind a screen to give both camouflage and diffusion. Also made similar insulation pads behind the canvas pictures.

    Can't believe how bad the leather settee is though - won't do that again.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    My Bastanis Atlas open baffle speakers have finally been re-housed in some better wood. This was a joint project with Vic of Trans-Fi fame, the wood was CNC cut then lacquered. I've christened them 88s, my son calls them 2 Fat Ladies after the bingo call. Actually I'd prefer slightly bigger hips but I'm straying from hi-fi....

    Its truly amazing! Great work Clive! Keep up the good work. You can place some canvas pictures to improve the look of your room. Thanks for sharing with us.
    Last edited by The Grand Wazoo; 02-12-2011 at 22:43.

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    Hi Nero, you don't appear to have noticed the requirement to introduce yourself when you joined - you wouldn't just be here to sell canvas art, now would you? Chop chop on the intro, please, or else I'm afraid it will be chop chop!
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    Canvas art links removed!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Canvas art links removed!

    Marco.
    Damn! and I was just about to order some too...
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    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > Troels Gravesen Faital 3WC-15.

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    Aye, sure, along with yer Swedish skud mags!

    Quote Originally Posted by electric beach View Post
    Sorry - don't know where that thumbs down came from
    I changed it to a thumbs up, just for you!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  9. #39
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    If the pics had been nudes I might have been tempted to click on the links.....
    TT 1 Trans-Fi Salvation with magnetic bearing + Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro + London Reference
    TT 2 Garrard 301 with NWA main bearing + Audiomods Series Six 10.5" + Ortofon 2M Mono SE
    Digital Lindemann Bridge + Gustard R26 with LB external clock
    Pre and Power Amp EWA M40P + M40A
    Bass Amp & DSP Behringer iNuke NU3000DSP x 2
    Speakers 1 Bastanis Sagarmatha Duo with twin baffleless 15" bass drivers per side
    Speakers 2 MarkaudioSota Viotti Tower

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    Hi Clive
    just looked at your system great! you have obviously put loads of time into obtaining a great sound. The reason for this contact is to ask your opinion of the Trans-Fi arm assy. I am considering ordering the T3 Pro which embodies all the latest mods. This is completely new territory for me although everything about it seems right , can you please give your opinions of its performance. Thanks
    Regards
    Pegleg4
    John Lancaster

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