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  1. #1
    Join Date: Feb 2008

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    Thumbs up Hi!

    Hello Ladies & Gentlemen.
    I've been invited to join this new and enterprising Forum by some acquaintances of old. I wish it every success and hope the high standards of good conduct are maintained.

    My last 8 years of experimentation with affordable Dedicated Mains supplies for Hi–Fi, and with the numerous Mains contributions from other like-minded people (Thank You everyone), has left me in the privileged position of being able to offer all this information to anyone who requests it, for FREE.
    There is currently 5Mb of Dedicated Mains Information, consisting 36 MS Word documents/attachments. My e-Mail account is listed in my profile details should anyone require this free information.

    Most of us have Hi-Fi aspirations that exceed our disposable income, so we try and maximise what we have. Upgrading the Mains to the Hi-Fi is one area where HUGE MASSIVE gains can be achieved for "little" financial outlay. I just wish someone had been there for me 30 years ago, informing me about these Mains ideas that improve Hi-Fi equipment performance.
    Mind you, back then people laughed when they were told that interconnect cables were directional. How times have changed?

    Please note that all of these Mains ideas should be within the scope of anyone who has modest DIY skills. I have attempted to keep everything at a "nuts and bolts" level, and have used "off the shelf" electrical items - nothing esoteric. I have purposely avoided anything which requires equipment internal modification and soldering of the Hi-Fi equipment. The aim was to ensure, hopefully, that the sonic gains achieved are easily duplicated and repeatable by anyone employing these ideas. There is no magic, just adherence to good quality engineering practices, and a belt and braces approach to achieve a decent dedicated power supply for all the Hi-Fi.

    Please note that as of January 2005 Part "P" of the Building Regulations came into effect and any completely New Mains installations will require certification.

    Best regards
    Roy
    Last edited by Roy Riches; 21-02-2008 at 11:57.

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    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Norfolk, UK

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    Hi Roy and welcome!

    Excellent offer of FREE advice, thank you very much. I'm sure you'll have a few requestors.

    Nice to have you here.

    Lounge:
    Samsung QE65QN80F 65" QLED TV
    Echo Link streamer
    RME Audio ADI-2 FS (AK4493) DAC
    XMOS DSD Async
    Emotiva A2+ power amplifier
    Neat Motive SX1 speakers
    Van Damme 4.00mm tour grade speaker cable
    Nakamichi Fanlock banana plugs
    Chord Clearway XLR interconnects
    Audioquest Crimson USB interconnect
    QED Quartz Reference optical interconnect


    Studio:
    2022 MacBook Pro 14" M1 Pro 10/16/16/16
    SMSL DAC
    Modified Fosi P4 preamp
    Adam Audio T5Vs
    Fenton 10" active sub
    Roxel RBS 300s
    Several valve preamps

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    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK

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    Hi Roy,

    Nice to see you and welcome!

    Don't worry, there are no 'idiots' allowed here...

    I look forward to hearing all about your latest experiments. If you could list your current system and/or post any pictures in the Gallery that would be great.

    Regards,
    Marco.

    P.S Ian tells me that you're seeking to change your Naim gear?

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    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    I'm Dave.

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    Oh no!! When did you change the rules about idiots being allowed?
    That's me gone
    Welcome Roy, it's nice here - some good people.
    Dave.

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    Join Date: Jan 2008

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    I'm BigBobJoylove.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenhomeelectronics View Post
    Oh no!! When did you change the rules about idiots being allowed?
    That's me gone
    Don't worry Dave, we won't retrospectively prune our members.

    Btw, I'll do your backgrounds this evening - been so busy mate I've not had time to even look at it.


    Lounge:
    Samsung QE65QN80F 65" QLED TV
    Echo Link streamer
    RME Audio ADI-2 FS (AK4493) DAC
    XMOS DSD Async
    Emotiva A2+ power amplifier
    Neat Motive SX1 speakers
    Van Damme 4.00mm tour grade speaker cable
    Nakamichi Fanlock banana plugs
    Chord Clearway XLR interconnects
    Audioquest Crimson USB interconnect
    QED Quartz Reference optical interconnect


    Studio:
    2022 MacBook Pro 14" M1 Pro 10/16/16/16
    SMSL DAC
    Modified Fosi P4 preamp
    Adam Audio T5Vs
    Fenton 10" active sub
    Roxel RBS 300s
    Several valve preamps

  6. #6
    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Fishtoft, Lincolnshire

    Posts: 394
    I'm Dave.

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    I was worried for a while there. I didn't fancy being pruned - whatever that is. Is it some sort of moden day perversion that uses dried fruits? If it is I might be interested after all...
    Sorry to hihack your thread, Roy. I can be very immature at times :-)
    Dave.
    PS I won't nag you on the backgrounds Rob, I know how busy life has a habit of becoming at times.
    Keep smiling.

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    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Norwich

    Posts: 1,064
    I'm Mike.

    Default Welcome, Rkr

    Like to think my e-mail exhortations had something to do with your resurfacing on a forum again, but good to see you anyway.

    Must mention this to our mutual friend in Thanet, who has potential for considerable input, I feel.

    Good luck, Roy

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    Join Date: Oct 2008

    Location: Glasgowshire

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    I'm Gary.

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    Hi Roy,
    great to see you here.

    We corresponded YEARS ago on your work with Mains treatment, prior to installing my balanced mains system for the system.
    Your documents were very helpful, and I can speak to how good and throurough your research is, so thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Riches View Post
    Hello Ladies & Gentlemen.
    I've been invited to join this new and enterprising Forum by some acquaintances of old. I wish it every success and hope the high standards of good conduct are maintained.

    My last 8 years of experimentation with affordable Dedicated Mains supplies for Hi–Fi, and with the numerous Mains contributions from other like-minded people (Thank You everyone), has left me in the privileged position of being able to offer all this information to anyone who requests it, for FREE.
    There is currently 5Mb of Dedicated Mains Information, consisting 36 MS Word documents/attachments. My e-Mail account is listed in my profile details should anyone require this free information.

    Most of us have Hi-Fi aspirations that exceed our disposable income, so we try and maximise what we have. Upgrading the Mains to the Hi-Fi is one area where HUGE MASSIVE gains can be achieved for "little" financial outlay. I just wish someone had been there for me 30 years ago, informing me about these Mains ideas that improve Hi-Fi equipment performance.
    Mind you, back then people laughed when they were told that interconnect cables were directional. How times have changed?

    Please note that all of these Mains ideas should be within the scope of anyone who has modest DIY skills. I have attempted to keep everything at a "nuts and bolts" level, and have used "off the shelf" electrical items - nothing esoteric. I have purposely avoided anything which requires equipment internal modification and soldering of the Hi-Fi equipment. The aim was to ensure, hopefully, that the sonic gains achieved are easily duplicated and repeatable by anyone employing these ideas. There is no magic, just adherence to good quality engineering practices, and a belt and braces approach to achieve a decent dedicated power supply for all the Hi-Fi.

    Please note that as of January 2005 Part "P" of the Building Regulations came into effect and any completely New Mains installations will require certification.

    Best regards
    Roy
    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    Well that’s possibly a new record Gary - welcoming a new member 17 years (to the day!) since they joined…
    Alex

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  10. #10
    Join Date: Feb 2008

    Location: UK South.

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    Default Silver Buss Bars for C.U.

    Good Afternoon Everyone,
    I’m returning here to inform those interested in Dedicated Mains supply for Hi-Fi of a new development which I abandoned in 2003 because of ridiculous costs. This information is FREE, like all the other information.
    In 2003 I researched the possibility of acquiring pure Silver Buss Bars for the Live and Neutral in the Memera Consumer Units. Manufactures quoted me prohibitive costs of £400 to £600 for a single 8-way Live Buss Bar and required a production run of 1000 units minimum.
    What’s changed? An enthusiast near Tentenden, Kent, contacted me 2024 about Dedicated Mains and after appreciating the benefits of doing some Mains upgrades including the double copper Live Buss Bars, inquired if I’d ever thought about silver? I told him my story of 2003. He was keen to do his own research and made several inquiries with laser cutting and hot forged casting options. But was still given quotes of around £600 for 8-way silver buss bar at 2mm thickness.

    In 2008 I had purchased a scroll saw; searching online I can now purchase 2mm thick flat pure silver plate and can make myself these Live buss bars for around £80 and using 1.5mm pure silver wire in a bundle of 4, insulated inside blue heat-shrink sleeving, for the Neutral connection at about £20. Now this made it a realistic opportunity to explore the 2003 shelved idea. Betts Metal Store, Birmingham was my silver supplier.

    Yes, it worked, adding the Silver Buss bar behind the existing copper Buss Bar made noticeable improvement, also the chap near Tentenden, plus his two daughters, confirmed noticeable benefits.
    What next, explore and fit 2nd 8-way pure silver Live and Neutral Buss Bar, discarding the copper completely; not as enlightening as the first, but still slightly better. VFM was the combination of copper plus 2mm silver buss bars. Some Consumer Units have thinner Live pins, you’ll have to file away the surplus silver to fit.
    If you purchase 2mm x 36mm x YOUR REQUIRED LENGTH. Then cutting through the middle you get two Buss Bars, one will have the extra tooth – share costs with a friend






    For those enthusiasts on a single 6mm or 10mm single radial (spur) or standard domestic 32A ring main, there is also something for you for about £25. Use the 1.5mm pure silver wire at £25 per metre, plus some Red/Brown and Blue heat-shrink sleeving for Live & Neutral insulation.
    Run a loop connection from the bottom of the Main 100A On/Off (RCD) switch along the Live buss bar to where the 32A breaker supplying the HI-Fi resides, connect to the bottom of this breaker, NB unscrew the clamp fully and install the silver wires BEHIND the existing copper Buss Bar. Next, from the bottom of the Main On/Off switch Neutral connection, run a length of silver wires to the Neutral Bar where this same 32A breaker has its Neutral wires terminated. Usually a bundle of 3 silver wires can be fitted in these terminating holes. NB. The further away along the Live buss bar your Hi-Fi 32A breaker resides then the greater the improvement. NB. PLEASE Do remember to turn off and Isolate Mains supplies when working with electricity.


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