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    Quote Originally Posted by sonddek View Post
    Have done. Still not out of the woods. Will start to assess after 100 hours.
    I wonder how Richard ever got on with his MN bearing? For some reason, these days he seems to prefer living on pfm, even though there is much more Techy chat here.....

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worrasf View Post
    For what it's worth, I have just sent my PCB to Vantage Audio for an electrolytic upgrade and earth path re-working. I will then use their PSU instead of the TimeStep.

    Steve
    Steve,

    You just take out the motor control PCB, pop in the post, Richard works his magic and then you can easily reinstall ?

    Will Richards PVB mods work with the TS PSU ?
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    Connected with Reference Fidelity Components Super Neptunes and Speaker Cables.
    Powered by Custom-HiFi-Cables DC2 psus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Stockwell View Post
    Will Richards PVB mods work with the TS PSU ?

    Yes, no problem - he kindly offered to supply me with a couple of DC leads so I could A/B dem his PSU against the TS but already decided to go with his anyway - hence moving on the TS

    Steve
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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzBones View Post
    By the way, I'm assuming that you trimmed/snipped off the 18 component wires that poke through the solder side of the pcb board in the area of the circular body of the new bearing housing as these could foul?
    Yes, I did trim the protruding wires.
    Thanks for your encouragement!
    Richard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I wonder how Richard ever got on with his MN bearing? For some reason, these days he seems to prefer living on pfm, even though there is much more Techy chat here.....

    Marco.
    The MN bearing seems to work fine. However, since that deck has an Ekos2 fitted and a Timestep PSU, I can't pinpoint the influence of the bearing. It certainly sounds better, in hi-fi terms, than my other stock SL1200's. I'm not sure it's much more musical. I think I would need to do a direct a/b comparison to offer a fair assessment, and that's why I don't have much to say on this subject.
    Richard.

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    BTW, since there are two Richards being mentioned on this thread it might disambiguate if people were to refer to me as sonddek.
    Richard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sonddek View Post
    The MN bearing seems to work fine. However, since that deck has an Ekos2 fitted and a Timestep PSU, I can't pinpoint the influence of the bearing. It certainly sounds better, in hi-fi terms, than my other stock SL1200's. I'm not sure it's much more musical. I think I would need to do a direct a/b comparison to offer a fair assessment, and that's why I don't have much to say on this subject.
    Excellent news, Richard. I'm glad that the MN bearing has hit the spot, although I hear what you're saying about A/B comparisons, which is a fair point.



    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Default The Time Step PSU Dc lead

    Recently, I decided to re-instal the on/off switching (mains) on my 1210 to make life easier for myself. Now I have been using the Time Step HE supply; to give this titchy little box its full title, the 'Time Step HE Low noise power supply', thats what is says on the can. This PSU comes with a generous length of DC cable, too much for my requirement, so I decided to peel back the nylon mesh encasing the lead to enable me to aquire suitable lengths for solder purposes and to avoid too many solder joins. I was very pleasantly surprised that Dave Cawley, or whoever made the box, had used Van Damme cable (this I like). To be exact (bordering on being pedantic) the cable is Van Damme 268-012-060 Classic Instrument cable AM noise rejecting LAP spiral screen ultra pure SPO FC conductors so a pat on the back Master Cawley, you did tell me it was a good'un. This DC lead is connected to the PSU by a Female to Male locking collar DIN plug with pin No3 being hot (+VE DC) and pin No1 being cold (-VE DC) pins 2 and 4 are vacant, I checked it out with a Multimeter. This will make life easier (which in my dotage, I require). Is my TS HE DC lead sympatico with a Paul Hynes or Vanatge Audio unit to enable easy auditioning... is there a possibility there? I don't really want to de-solder and then re-solder again if I can help it. Is there anyone out there clued up on these matters???
    Incidently, I'm quite content with my connected TS HE but I'm also a curious old cove and if something is substantially better and has been proved to be then I'm all ears etc?

    Ta muchly

    Ron

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    Keep posted I may be getting a SR7 from paul, the SR5's bigger brother When i have some time i'm gonna write a comparison of the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by REXTON View Post
    Keep posted I may be getting a SR7 from paul, the SR5's bigger brother When i have some time i'm gonna write a comparison of the two.
    Andrew, I knew Paul H had a higher grade (?) PSU viz: SR7 but I did not realize that it was suitable for the 1210, have I missed out somewhere, and what does it bring to the soup kitchen as it were?

    Ron

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