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  1. #21
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    Hehehe..... Santa will bring you some for Christmas, Steve!

    The perfect speaker? It doesn't exist. I need something that can do serious scale ('heft') and realism, though, at 'live music' playback levels without crying 'mammy, daddy' when the going gets tough...!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  2. #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hehehe..... Santa will bring you some for Christmas, Steve!

    The perfect speaker? It doesn't exist. I need something that can do serious scale ('heft') and realism, though, at 'live music' playback levels without crying 'mammy, daddy' when the going gets tough...!

    Marco.
    Santa is going to have to bring me a job first!
    They swim... the mark of Satan is upon them. They must hang.


    FLAC / WDTV Live / Cambridge Audio / Tannoy VX12

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I need something that can do serious scale ('heft') and realism, though, at 'live music' playback levels without crying 'mammy, daddy' when the going gets tough...!

    Marco.


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    I always preferred this one style wise:



    iFi ZEN Stream/TV/CXC >> RME ADI2 DAC >> XTZ Edge A2-300 >> Rogers LS8a

    PC >> Hugo 2 >> iFi Pro iCAN Sig >> Raal-Requisite CA-1a

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    I know there was chap on WW who had a pair of these JBL's, did anyone egt to hear a pair?
    I would love to listen to some myself.
    They swim... the mark of Satan is upon them. They must hang.


    FLAC / WDTV Live / Cambridge Audio / Tannoy VX12

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    Big JBLs take some beating for scale.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by technobear View Post
    I always preferred this one style wise:



    K2s, aren't they? Awesome! I do love JBLs....although big Tannoys can easily do as much scale, and probably more

    Martin (or anyone else), next time you venture up my way, you must pop by for a sesh and I'll frighten you to death with what the Lockwoods can do with rock music, in my wee room, scale-wise. Some people never fully recover.....!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Hi Marco.....

    For large power duties the LS 5/8 will easily reach 115 db spl without distortion which is quite staggering (well staggeringly dangerous in a domestic setting as being a monitor speaker it does'nt actually sound that loud).

    I know many folk have a problem with BBC designs but I first heard a pair of these when I was 15 in a BBC dubbing theatre and vowed I would one day own some - had to wait 10 more years before I did though. I've personally never found anything any better except the B&W Nautilus 801 which when properly driven did admittedly sound quite breathtaking...
    Stewart.

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    Hi Stewart,

    Yeah, you've mentioned those before and they sound right up my street... Got any pics of your LS 5/8s?

    I need to buy/borrow and SPL meter some time. I've never actually measured how loud things can get with the Lockwoods, on the end of my TD copper amp, in a fairly small room, but it at times it must be frighteningly loud. The sound can pin you to the wall with its sheer visceral intensity...

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by technobear View Post
    I always preferred this one style wise:



    Yes the K2 S9800 was very nice but has now been superceded by the K2 S9900 which I think looks even better.

    My first choice would have been a pair of Everest D6600's followed by the K2 S9900, but at £44k & £28k respectively they were more than I could justify spending for a pair of speakers.

    The Array 1400 on the other hand is a lot less at circa £9k and is not far off the more expensive models in performance. In fact the law of diminishing returns is very evident. It's also worth noting that the designer Greg Timbers used the prototypes for these in his own system rather than the range topping models he also designed.

    Unless I manage to find a pair of secondhand D6600's for under £10k I don't think I'll ever part with my Array's.

    If Marco pops in on his way to France then he could provide an unbiased evaluation of the Array's capability.

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