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    Quote Originally Posted by worrasf View Post
    Hello Chris,
    No, not to my ears the overall tone of the music remained the same - it was the way it is presented that improved, better attack (start and stop quicker) - less "bleed" of instruments into each other and overall better clarity and timing but the essential sound was preserved (just as well as I'd spent not a little time and a lot of dollar getting the tone I like by valve swapping in my Croft's.
    I reckon I am a world authority now on the sonic characteristics of valves various

    If anyone reading this thread has a Croft Pre/Power combination I'm happy to discuss further.

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    Thanks Steve

    How would you summarise the platter and bearing together , say compared with the difference the Timestep psu made ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    Thanks Steve

    How would you summarise the the platter and bearing together , say compared with the difference the Timestep psu made ?
    Now your taxing my aged grey cells - the TimeStep has been in a while and I've made so many other changes since then. With that proviso I reckon that the VA bearing/platter upgrade was more significant than the PSU upgrade. They both (to my ears anyway) address the issues of PRaT. The PSU may perhaps have added a bit more in terms of bottom end definition but the VA upgrades were more significant in terms of timing, clarity and detail. I guess that must be the case as I heard these improvements despite the PSU being installed So in terms of upgrade path then IME I would suggest the VA bearing & platter and then the PSU.

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    Hey Steve,

    Is there anyway you could take additional closeups of the platter? The underside? The thing-a-ma-bobs that lift it up? I'm really curious how this was implemented as I've taken a look at his website and he seems, certainly in some cases, like a miracle worker.
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    Yep more piccys
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    Quote Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100 View Post
    Hey Steve,

    Is there anyway you could take additional closeups of the platter? The underside? The thing-a-ma-bobs that lift it up? I'm really curious how this was implemented as I've taken a look at his website and he seems, certainly in some cases, like a miracle worker.
    Hi Biff

    Well you might to watch this space, as hopefully in a couple of weeks i will get to hear the "Black Beast" (a hot rodded SL10) now Richard uses an L07D and like many others feels its the best DD TT ever made Arguably ? But this project has him scratching his head in disbelief .

    Miracle worker ? No thats Blasphemy ! Lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by worrasf View Post
    Yes, I have some yellow soft paraffin. I used double sided adhesive tape previously but I think the vaseline works better.
    Welcome to the Vaseline club

    But seriously, I found Vaseline bonding of the Achromat to the platter very effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    Welcome to the Vaseline club
    Indeed. Incidentally, when is our next meeting, and are you supplying the rubber gloves this time or shall I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WOStantonCS100 View Post
    Hey Steve,

    Is there anyway you could take additional closeups of the platter? The underside? The thing-a-ma-bobs that lift it up? I'm really curious how this was implemented as I've taken a look at his website and he seems, certainly in some cases, like a miracle worker.
    I'll upload a piccie of the pulling hooks when I get home tonight.

    I am not overly keen on lifting the platter to take photies I'm afraid. Richard stronlgy advises leaving the platter undisturbed once in situ unless essential -


    Steve
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    Hi Steve

    I can imagine with the decca cart , you're getting a pretty vivid listening experience , close to vinyl nirvana perhaps ?
    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    Hi Steve

    I can imagine with the decca cart , you're getting a pretty vivid listening experience , close to vinyl nirvana perhaps ?
    Hi Chris - yes, I think it's time to stop buying/upgrading and start listening

    Steve
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