Records noisier after a clean?!

[JohnM]

I guess the local chemist would be worth a shot, though the nearest is in town and there's always huge queues of people waiting for their prescriptions. It's one of those more modern 'chains' of Chemist so I'm not sure they'd be willing to sell me any purified water anyways. Surely there must be a site somewhere one can purchase thus stuff direct from the manufacturer... I'll get Googling!

Well I checked out that record today that I left the droplets of distilled water on, and there's obvious marks left behind now they've evaporated. So much for the ultra pure 1ppm stuff from Ebay then! At least I know the cause of those marks. Pity I left positive feedback before noticing those streaks!

I'll see if I have better luck with the stuff I posted in the 2nd link (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...956629&afsrc=1) once it arrives.

I'm glad I didn't make up an enture batch of fluid using that water from the first link... !

[JohnM]

Just found these links - might be worth a try:

http://www.reagent.co.uk/purified-water.html

http://pureklenz.co.uk/

[Audioman]

Just found these links - might be worth a try:

http://www.reagent.co.uk/purified-water.html

http://pureklenz.co.uk/

Looks like the right stuff though I pay a little less. Should do the job and leave a clean record. That distilled water is probably intended for car batteries.

[Jac Hawk]

well guys i'm still waiting for my step dad to make my RCM so in the meantime and because i hate the snap crackle and pop of dirty records i went and got a Knosti Disco Antistat, it doesn't suck the records dry but you have a bath of cleaning fluid and you slip the record between a pair of brushes which are immersed in the fluid, before i got it i read a load of reports about the kit it's self and the cleaning fluid supplied which may leave residue.

Well i've cleaned about 10 LP's to date some with the fluid and some with distilled water with 2 or 3 drops of fairy liquid in it, now like all record cleaners it won't repair damage, scratches etc but if the vinyl is only dirty it does a brilliant job, one LP in particular which had a load of grunge on the first 2 tracks of side one, now it's perfect no noise at all on the run in groove.

As for as the Knosti fluid stacks up against the Distilled water with fairy, well it's about the same although i do rinse the records after cleaning with plain distilled water just in case of residue, you can reuse the knosti fluid as the kit comes with a funnel and some filter papers but to be honest distilled water and Fairy is so cheap it's not worth using anything else, i get my distilled water from Morrisons and it's great no problems at all with it's purity and dead cheap.

As a side note i also use a magic eraser to keep my stylus clean, the 1st time i used it i was amazed at how much crap it took off the stylus, to be honest i thought i'd ripped the tip of but no it was all dirt.

[Stratmangler]

well guys i'm still waiting for my step dad to make my RCM so in the meantime and because i hate the snap crackle and pop of dirty records i went and got a Knosti

I have one of these, and the single bath method causes as many problems as it solves.
All it really seems to do is make a nice soup of the crud in the groove, and deposits it at the bottom of the groove.
This then coats your stylus when you play the record.

TNT audio looked at the issue too, and came up with a two bath system http://www.tnt-audio.com/accessories...ntistat_e.html

[Macca]

My experience with the Moth RCM has all been positive and I've not had any of the problems others have mentioned - a proper RCM is the only way to go IMHO not these half-way house solutions.

But they are expensive...

Everything I have cleaned has come up fanatastic - As mentioned before I have found for best results use a lot of the fluid - then into the anti-static sleeve - after 24 hours in the sleeve the record will be almost CD silent.

Even new reords are improved and really noticeable difference to the higher frequncies, bells, triangles, cymbal shimmer etc. A massive upgrade and makes vinyl sound unrealistically good

IMHO If you are serious about vinyl get a proper RCM (even if you have to sell a kid or a kidney) or just sell your records and forget about it.

[Jac Hawk]

I have one of these, and the single bath method causes as many problems as it solves.
All it really seems to do is make a nice soup of the crud in the groove, and deposits it at the bottom of the groove.
This then coats your stylus when you play the record.

TNT audio looked at the issue too, and came up with a two bath system http://www.tnt-audio.com/accessories...ntistat_e.html

the trick is to only use the liquid to clean a maximum of about 8 LP's and then empty the bath, refill with distilled water and do a rinse, honest it works a treat.

[Stratmangler]

the trick is to only use the liquid to clean a maximum of about 8 LP's and then empty the bath, refill with distilled water and do a rinse, honest it works a treat.

Sounds like the two bath method with only one bath then

[Jac Hawk]

My experience with the Moth RCM has all been positive and I've not had any of the problems others have mentioned - a proper RCM is the only way to go IMHO not these half-way house solutions.

But they are expensive...

Mate expensive doesn't even come close, £500 for what it essentially a hoover and a turntable in a box, you still have to apply the cleaning fluid with a brush, if all you did was fill the machine with fluid and it was like a dishwasher i.e. you load the dirty vinyl in and take it out when its clean i could understand the astronomic price as it stands i'll wait for my step dad

[Jac Hawk]

Sounds like the two bath method with only one bath then

it works though, so i'm happy