And so the next major audiophile engineering challenge is, err, well what?

[Marco]

Hahahaha... Yes indeed, Mike - a wee slip of the finger there! Maybe it makes more sense like that, though?

Marco.

[Primalsea]

No objective standards then? Only taste? My father didn't like HiFi - to harsh - he preferred Glen Miller on a 1940 Radiogram - no top at all, and a very limited dynamic range.

I used to think that objective standards was the only way to go. After a while I realised that they don't always reflect what I do and don't like.

Personally, its up to me and me alone to decide what I like and don't like. All of the nice tests results don't mean much to me if I don't like the product.

The only things that are of interest in tests and reviews is that there are no serious flaws, poor manufacturing standards, designs that compromise safety and are dangerous etc etc. How it sounds is the personal bit, although it is interesting to read what others think and how it relates to your experience.

[Filterlab]

Way off line and slightly offensive. Think along the lines of posting from a phone and predictive texting issues...

I've since edited the post from my PC and elaborated a bit more.

You need to get a better phone mate.

I now understand what you were saying, cheers for the edit.

[Marco]

Steve, do you not get to check what you've written before you hit the 'Submit Reply' button, even from a phone?

Marco.

[Filterlab]

Steve, do you not get to check what you've written before you hit the 'Submit Reply' button, even from a phone?

Marco.

[tfarney]

Goodness. I know we're not known for topic discipline around here, but I go away for a few days on a business trip and a discussion of blind faith vs. blind listening turns to religion, then...well, never mind. In the meantime, while on my little jaunt to the center of the US, I walked into a little hifi shop in Skokie, Illinois, of all places, and listened to a pair of these:



OMG (speaking of religion) as the children of the web say. I'll have to listen to earbuds for a month to drive them out of my mind and get back to the point where mere hifi sounds acceptable. I was Godsmacked, to continue the religious theme. They are the new flagship of the Vienna Acoustics line and the experience they create in a room is simply stunning. At $27,500 US for the pair, I suppose it should be. There are, of course, more expensive speakers. Can they really be better? I doubt it today. But then, the day before yesterday I would have doubted what these did. The heart of the system is, I suspect, the odd driver on top that looks somewhat like an opened star fruit. It is a single driver, in it's own cabinet (you can and should toe it in while leaving the rest of the array forward-facing), that has a range of 100 to 20,000 hz. So essentially, this speaker, appropriately named The Music, has all the midrange coherence and purity of a single full-range driver, with 3 10" woofers, seamlessly integrated, extending the bass and a super tweeter delivering super-aural information that, I assume, is responsible for their impossibly precise imaging.

Damn. I'm ruined.

Tim

[Filterlab]

Get saving mate, they're gorgeous lookers and I can almost imagine just how good they sound. I have to admit that they remind me of Focal's range of speakers.

[Ali Tait]

You need to hear a decent pair of DIY full-rangers in say a TQWT enclosure.Total price would be about 300 dollars (depending on choice of driver) and I bet they'd have over 95% of the performance of those.Or perhaps an open-baffle like Nick's(Lurcher) with some nice Fostex full-rangers and Eminence 15 inch bass drivers.Total cost of drivers was 250 pounds,plus the cost of some birch ply to make the baffles.One of the best speakers commercial or otherwise that I've ever come across.

[tfarney]

You need to hear a decent pair of DIY full-rangers in say a TQWT enclosure.Total price would be about 300 dollars (depending on choice of driver) and I bet they'd have over 95% of the performance of those.Or perhaps an open-baffle like Nick's(Lurcher) with some nice Fostex full-rangers and Eminence 15 inch bass drivers.Total cost of drivers was 250 pounds,plus the cost of some birch ply to make the baffles.One of the best speakers commercial or otherwise that I've ever come across.

TQWT?

Tim

[Filterlab]

TQWT?

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