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This is going to sound bad coming from someone who has a "polished" but very mechanical looking T3 Pro on his 1200. Although looks are always my last concern when it comes to gear, I have to say, I'm really kinda not liking how that looks on a 1210. If this were the silver face (1200) version, it would just get a straight veto from me regardless of how it sounds and it may indeed sound great. Yes, I know, that's totally wrong; but, this is actually the first case where looks are really a stopping point for me. On a Scheu or Clearaudio (etc.) table, I love the way acrylic (or similar) platters look. I just can't seem to get over this one on a Techy, visually.
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I admit I like how the acrylic looks on the TT. I do agree with you that ashetics are important. However, I have to admit, I love the look of the stock platter with the strobe dots on it.
Mike News platter looks good from a 180 degree angle. And yes, I am one of Mike New's 80 happy customers having his bearing in my TT.
I know Mike New uses a copper-top on his platter. Is it recommended to use a mat when using his platter? If one had a copper mat and then purchased his platter, would anyone know if their is a sonic benifit to use or not to use a copper mat on top of his platter?
I like the looks too, although I've seen the use of a Herbies mat betwixt platter and record, which sort-of defeats the point of the acrylic (better termination of the vinyl. I'm sure I'd like it though, but not for £500 - you could have a decent turntable for that amount![]()
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hi Mike,
I orignally produced the Copper Bonded Platter for Marco as a special request, and then realised it was possibly a nicer looking platter so I have kept with this design.=I know Mike New uses a copper-top on his platter. Is it recommended to use a mat when using his platter? If one had a copper mat and then purchased his platter, would anyone know if their is a sonic benifit to use or not to use a copper mat on top of his platter?
Also the bonded 3mm Annealed Copper provides superior sonics on certain types of replay. according to feedback from some of the many users who now have them.
A lot of people have mentioned the gap around the periphery of the platter on Martin's SL1200. I am now getting better quality Alluminium blanks from my suppliers, which permits a larger overall outside diameter to be obtained.
In regard to the use of a mat.
Yves in canada I believe has been using a TTWeights copper mat with my platter and recons it's fantastic.
I have been using the 3mm Achromat with the machined allowance for the label and have, like many others found it to be possibly the best combination with my platter. Providing you make sure that it is properly 'connected' to the surface of the platter with a good quality silicon grease or the popular alternative!
I am currently using what I believe is a mat from a Mk5; which to my surprise, when doing some level tests, I discovered is actually moulded with a concave surface of about 1.4mm from edge to label area. When mounted onto the platter and measured with the edge of a good quality engineers steel ruler.
This mat is perfect for use with the warped records that I have (using a centre weight of course) The mat is the usual type with the sets of circular ribs on it's surface. When placing the weight onto the record you can see the record being pulled into contact all over. And unlike the metal versions the material is soft and pliant allowing the record to find it's own optimum contact seating all over.
It maybe that what I have is a specially produced mat by some supplier that has long since moved on.
I have no idea how many of these may have been produced, but certainly the mat on my older test-bed SL1200Mk2 does not have this feature.
I must admit that I now use this most of the time as it seems to give me excellent sonics with my platter on all records.
What would be nice to try, is the Achromat with the same treatment. maybe this could be achieved sometime.
Another mat which gives good results with my platter, is the soft thin mat produced by Origin Live. However this does not have a label recess which is a shame. It's the mat which smells like corn chips.
Laying your record onto the flat surface of my platter is a sure way to check for warping, I was rather surprised to find how many warped ones I had.
It was the base plate that elevated it like that. In any case, photography tends to exaggerate it - in real life, it's just not a problem for me.
I'd also like to recommend both the Achromat and Michell clamp as the best combination of coupling I've yet tried, the Achromat bonded to the platter with a thin film of Vaseline. In fact, it's so good like this that I'm unlikely to experiment any further.
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I am using the Origin Live mat with the MN platter. I like it better than the stock rubber Techie mat. Origin Live mat is much more open sounding with better air and separations.
Waiting for my Achromat to come in. Will do a comparison then.
I remember the ex-technics engineer who posted here (before being all but hounded away) mentioned the slightly concave record mounting - and why...
I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?