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  1. #301
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mains Cables R Us View Post
    I am so chilled I am frozen, I heard a Jelco at Bristol, mediocre at best.
    Ha - I just love using mediocre shite, soz ah do, coz am just a daft big bawheid fae Glesga!

    I did notice reading Hi-Fi world on the way down to Bristol that the Origin Live modded Technics had the power supply wiring slightly different to ours???

    The positive was in the same place at the top of the PCB but the earth was NOT at the bottom left, did anyone else notice that? It was not even near the edges but 1/2 way down near the middle?
    Well, that doesn't surprise me, as not many people will have sussed that's the best place for the earth to go! Thankfully, Mike's diligence, common sense and in-depth knowledge of the circuit in the Techy, has allowed us to glean that particular useful nugget of information

    If theirs gets 5 stars can't wait to see what the time-step one gets next month!
    The Timestep one will also get five stars - no question. And it deserves to, as no doubt it'll sound excellent. However, that doesn't mean a different approach, which some of us here have followed, isn't even more excellent......

    Perhaps I should ask David to compare a 'Paul Hynes/Mike New'd' Techy to a Timestep one, and report his findings? Now *THAT* would be interesting...!!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    I would have asked him for you (DP) but he was nowhere to be seen on saturday at bristol even though the show programme clearly states hi-fi world editor will be on hand to answer questions, I went past the stand at least 5 times and it was empty apart from a young girl taking subscriptions.

    It was Rapha anyway who did the review.

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    David often goes 'AWOL' at shows - lol. I normally ring him on his mobby, and we meet up in the bar for a chinwag, once he's finished 'doing the rounds'

    Ah, that's interesting, as it's usually David who reviews all the Techy stuff... Still, it'll be interesting reading someone else's take on things for a change....

    I'd bet, though, that when the Timestep Evo is reviewed, it'll be David who does it - and quite rightly, too!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Hi Biff,

    Might I ask how your Jelco is set up? Is the armboard tonearm mounting position set for a collar to stylus distance of 52mm or 50mm? Thanks.
    Sorry, don't have a clue, as a dealer fitted mine. If you PM Hugo, known here as 'Shuggie', he should be able to help, as he knows all about the recommended geometry for the Jelco

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Default From Marco's post of 27 May 2010

    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    I've also recently taken delivery of a Paul Hynes SR3-21 PSU, with very interesting results, and I'm awaiting delivery of an SR5 for similar evaluation purposes. The latter will be compared with an HE Timestep, in due course (with and without Mike's new platter).

    Exciting times are ahead!!

    Marco.
    Marco has this side by side comparison been made yet or is it still on the 'to do' agenda, or have I missed the bus ?

    Ron
    Last edited by MartinT; 28-02-2011 at 16:05. Reason: Fixed broken quote

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    Hi Ron,

    Still on the 'to do' agenda, so as soon as you fancy attending to it, lemmie know!

    The SR3 is excellent (it outperformed my then stock Timestep PSU), but the SR5 is a very different ball game again!

    I suspect that the Timestep SE is also very good, and it may be that the benefits of the SR5 only really become apparent when one is using an MN platter.

    However, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, as it were - and so the comparison will be very interesting!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    it may be that the benefits of the SR5 only really become apparent when one is using an MN platter.
    Certainly was my finding. Accepting that, the additional cost of the SR5 is well worth it over the SR3.

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    Default PSU for the Tel 12XX

    Thanks for the reply Marco, I was hoping that I had not missed anything as far as PSU were concerned. Little did we think all those years ago when a popping and a pulling in the discos of yore that the tables they used would find themselves into our hi fidelity systems of today I had an idea the 12XX were good when my son started into disco work and used one of his 1210 (stock) with and unkown MM, early Naim Nait (Waay haay!) and big muvvers of a speakers belting out some of his soul stuff in what passed for his home . It did sound quite good but I carried on in the flat earth with a slightly curved horizon way of doing things... I mean it was religion those days, weren't it? We are really spoilt for choice with KAB, Timestep x 2, Paul Hynes X 2 and now the not so new kid on the block, Origin Live... these are the only ones I know about and of course all the home brew ones... great eh?

    Ron

    PS Jeezus, did I really dance like the bod in the icon, I hang my head in shame

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    Lol - don't forget Arthur from the Funk Firm's 'Funked' SL-1200, elements of which are rather intriguing, namely the K-Drive mods to the servo and a rather novel modification of the stock Techy tonearm:

    http://www.thefunkfirm.co.uk/Turntab...0_upgrade.html



    Also due to be released is something called a 'Kinetic Cradle', which is basically an isolation system that screws into the base of the Techy, replacing the stock support feet, utilising some rather innovative ways of tackling the ingress of vibration. I suspect that it could be an alternative solution to the issue of designing a new plinth for the Techie, which is fraught with, shall we say, 'challenges'.....!

    I rate its rather novel design and will be amongst the first to try it when it's released onto the market, so look out for a full review

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Biff,



    Sorry, don't have a clue, as a dealer fitted mine. If you PM Hugo, known here as 'Shuggie', he should be able to help, as he knows all about the recommended geometry for the Jelco

    Marco.
    Thanks!! I'll do that. There's just something about an SPU...
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