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    Talking The Celestion kid strikes again.....!

    .....paying way too much for vintage speakers, lol. Here's what I won (or lost? ) on Ebay earlier:


    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...760141&afsrc=1

    I was all set to put my final bid in of a grand to secure them, or so I thought, (and yes even that was probably too much, as good ones like these normally go for around £600-900), and in the last 30 secs Del says to me: "If you *really* want them, increase your maximum bid quickly to £1500, just to make sure...."

    So it was lucky (or unlucky, lol) I did, as unknown to me, some f*cker came out of the blue and placed a £1300 bid just before I'd upped my max bid to £1500, so I won them literally in the last few seconds of the auction!

    Had Del not said what she did, I'd have lost them, and of course been £1320 richer!!

    *However*, being serious now, as the speakers were local to me in the Wirral, I went along on Friday night with some CDs to check them out, and one listen to them on the end of the current owner's Technics separates system, playing music I know inside out, and it was obvious just how special these speakers were

    I would not have paid what I did for them otherwise, and would probably have pulled out at around £700.

    Anyway, apart from them being in gorgeous condition in a rich walnut finish I adore (rarer and likely to have been a more expensive option in their day), the sound they produced on the end of such a modest system (hooked up with bell-wire, no less!) was quite incredible.......

    I'm obviously used to listening to speakers with huge slam, clarity, attack and immediacy, and these Celestions sounded rather uncannily almost as big, and as capable in that respect, as my Lockwood Majors!!

    The sheer 'out of the box' shockingly vivid realism the 66s produce in the mid and top end, have to be heard to be believed. So I knew there and then that these speakers were very special and I just HAD to have them for the forthcoming show at Scalford Hall

    There was no way I was lugging my Lockwoods down again, and the stand-mount speaker options we had I just don't think would've worked in the large-ish room we've been given, so being determined to produce a good sound in our room, I had to find a suitable pair of speakers to use.

    I'd known about how good the 66 Studio Monitors were from what people had said the last time when I bought the 15XRs, and that coupled with some extensive research, is what piqued my interest in them, especially when I noticed a link to some for sale recently on pfm, which were the ones I eventually bought

    Reading the description in this old ad, which mirrored what I'd heard myself, also made me want to buy them: http://cork.gumtree.ie/cork/58/57981158.html

    So now I have three bloody sets of speakers! Never mind, I'm sure I'll find a home somewhere for them in Wynn Hall!

    I'll report back tomorrow with how they sound on the end of my system (and Ian Walker's), and also take some nice pics.

    Off to bed now, so laters!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Nice
    You should have big ballerkz lifting those things aswell.

    Ask me what you want about em

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    Lol - well tell me what you think is best about them, oh and specifically what's good or bad about their crossovers (in terms of what would benefit from modifying, if anything ):



    Looks pretty decent to me, but you know me, I'm up for a fettle-ette if it'd be worthwhile!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Those on the brown board are early ones.

    E-mail dude
    Last edited by Rare Bird; 21-02-2011 at 05:38.

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    Got it, dude - cheers

    When I get them, I'll double check that mine have those types of crossover boards. They should do, as the pic was taken from a site featuring early ones like mine with the black (non-veneered) fronts.

    Mine definitely have the same terminals and face place as you indicated.

    Regarding the crossovers, I've read that the later versions with the veneered fronts supposedly have improved crossovers (although some say they were just more complicated...), so I wondered if there was any truth in that?

    Yes, the inductors look nice, so I'll leave those as they are.

    Regarding re-capping them, as you recommended to ensure the tweeters or midrange units don't blow, I may well do that, although the old chap I bought them from (who'd had them almost from new) liked to play them loud (lol) and has done so for the last 30-odd years, so if anything was likely to blow, you'd have thought it would've happened by now?

    Finally, mine are in a beautiful rich walnut finish, which seems quite rare, as all the other 66 Studio Monitors I've seen are in ubiquitous 70s teak... Do you know if that would've made them more expensive to buy originally? I know that more 'exotic' finishes on speakers, usually only available as a special option, often attract a premium price.

    If so, that may explain why those I were bidding against were prepared to pay 'over the odds', bearing in mind that the bidding was already at £620 before I got involved, with nearly two days of the auction still left.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Here's me thinking you may have paid a couple of hundred for 'em.......

    The rest of us could buy some Beovox 5702's for a ton or two, re-cap them and grin from ear to ear
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andre View Post
    You should have big ballerkz lifting those things aswell.
    Actually they don't weigh anywhere near as much as you'd think, pretty easy to carry one on your own as i have found out They aren't bulky except in height.

    Nice speakers, i'm keeping my pair
    Bests, Mark



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    Here's me thinking you may have paid a couple of hundred for 'em.......

    The rest of us could buy some Beovox 5702's for a ton or two, re-cap them and grin from ear to ear
    Lol! Show me a near mint pair of Studio 66 monitors which have sold recently for a couple of hundred quid, particularly ones finished in walnut?



    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Hi Mark,

    Actually they don't weigh anywhere near as much as you'd think, pretty easy to carry one on your own as i have found out They aren't bulky except in height.
    Indeed, but I'll confirm it after lugging them into the car tonight...

    Nice speakers, i'm keeping my pair
    If you're coming to Scalford, you'll hear just how nice they can sound when perfect. Did you refurb yours in the end?

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    If you're coming to Scalford, you'll hear just how nice they can sound when perfect. Did you refurb yours in the end?
    Oh i know how good they sound It really is surprising given the standard light weight enclosures but there you go

    Not yet no, i still have a mess of other stuff to get round to before considering what to do about the visually challenged 66s

    At least knowing the speakers will give me some insight into what the other equipment is doing
    Bests, Mark



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