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    Thank you very much Clive, the magic word is ASIO

    I digged in the net and find instructions to make foobar working with asio

    I've installed ASIO4ALL, disabled the resample option and now the gap between USB and CD is closed!!!!

    my notebook is running on win 7, so do you recommend WASAPI anyway?

    Only issue, now it won't play 24/96 flac...

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    Hi Roberto, it'll just be a setting somewhere stopping you playing 24/96. I really don't know what but let me know when you find it! As for WASAPI, I'm an XP user so I don't know but check http://www.computeraudiophile.com/co...ASIO-vs-WASAPI and similar postings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    Hi Roberto, it'll just be a setting somewhere stopping you playing 24/96. I really don't know what but let me know when you find it! As for WASAPI, I'm an XP user so I don't know but check http://www.computeraudiophile.com/co...ASIO-vs-WASAPI and similar postings.
    ...there is in winamp (allow 24 bit), so there must be an equivalent in foobar
    Cheers, Will

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    Quote Originally Posted by WAD62 View Post
    ...there is in winamp (allow 24 bit), so there must be an equivalent in foobar
    Look under File/Preferences/Output.
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    I have never noticed any difference between FLAC & CD playback, that is probably because I'm using FLAC at standard 16/44.1, on networked SqueezeBoxes, and on my PC I use an M-Audio 2496 soundcard...so no USB connections...
    Cheers, Will

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    There is a good discussion on Rock Grotto about FLAC and jitter, which is worth reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyB View Post
    There is a good discussion on Rock Grotto about FLAC and jitter, which is worth reading.
    Interesting quote from the site..

    "Convert it to FLAC using the highest quality setting"

    ...one assumes the author means 'highest compression', not 'highest quality' as FLAC is always lossless.

    This could as easily be seen as a test of ripping software, cd drives, etc, as there are conflicting results...too many variables!

    There is most definitely a difference between a CD and a bad FLAC rip version of it, additionally the use of the highest compression levels is inadvisable as it can place too much load on playback for some devices.
    Last edited by WAD62; 07-01-2011 at 12:29.
    Cheers, Will

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    OK, my turn for Foobar and ASIO4ALL help. I've been running 16/44.1 on XP with this s/w for ages. I'm now trying to play 24/96 but I'm having trouble with the config. I have 2 codecs available:

    USB Audio CODEC - seems to max out at 16/48

    RealTek HD Audio - has 8 channels, I configured the 1st 2 to L & R, the sound came out of the computer speaker, not DAC, and it was missing data (probably those other 6 channels).

    Any advice on what to do next.....this must be a common thing to set up.
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    Clive,

    As you've discovered the USB input on Stan's TC-7520 is limited to 16bit. So you'll have to use optical out from your PC to the DAC. Either it's inbuilt on the m/board or it means forking out for a 24/96Khz capable soundcard with digital out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krisbee View Post
    Clive,

    As you've discovered the USB input on Stan's TC-7520 is limited to 16bit. So you'll have to use optical out from your PC to the DAC. Either it's inbuilt on the m/board or it means forking out for a 24/96Khz capable soundcard with digital out.
    Chris, thanks.......I'd forgotten the spec.....it's all clear now. It was only one track anyway.
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