Not questioning any ones opinion mate- it is the philosophy to which forums are based, but for me the brush..........
Double Daftee
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I'm Andy.
Not questioning any ones opinion mate- it is the philosophy to which forums are based, but for me the brush..........
System; Michell Gyrodec SE/ Orbe Clamp/ Gert Pedersen armboard mod/ HR PSU/ SME V / J7 Tonearm cable/Ortofon Cadenza Black// Jez Arkless Turbo nutter B------ /Trichord Dino+
Amplification and loudspeaker set up is at the moment being split into two groups, comprising the following;
1. Same sources as above; SONY TAF-770ES/SONY CDP761E/Cable Talk 3.1 loudspeakercable/ Harbeth Compact7ES2/ Stands
2. Virtue Audio Sensation M451battery PSU, ClarityCaps upgrade/ Sensation M901/Russian PIO caps with Teflon bypass caps upgrade/ JT Dynamic PSU with various tweaks/ Connex Audio 5N Litz loudspeaker cable, Impulse H6 Loudspeakers.
Me so horny- Impulse H6 Horny
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Well, that's your choice, mate, but you've got a very good system, and one that would merit the benefits of the SK2, providing you have a decent-sized record collection
As you know, I also use Isonoes on my Techie, and they're great, but the sonic effect of the Furutech brush is just as fundamental, but in a different way.
Remember that removing static happens at the very beginning of the vinyl reproduction chain - support feet cannot address this problem.....
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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I'm Allthatwasisorwillbe.
can i play devil's advocate here?Originally Posted by Marco
If i have a 1200/1210 with new tonearm psu ect,but stock feet,which would you purchase next Isonoe's or Furutech SK2?
Last edited by kininigin; 23-12-2010 at 23:21.
Darren
KORUS CUSTOM SERVER
TECHNICS 1200 MKII_JELCO 750D_SHURE SC35C (with NOS and NEO SAS styli)
CAIMAN SEG + DORADO PSU
CROFT MEGA MICRO
PARADIGM REFERENCE ACTIVE/40'S
PARADIGM SERVO 15 SUBWOOFER X 2
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Roughly how many records have you got, Darren (or the fictional person in your example)? You're only going to get value from the Furutech brush if you own enough records to take advantage of its benefits, and you play them often
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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I'm Allthatwasisorwillbe.
i have between about 250-300,but was thinking more hypothetically just out of interest.Roughly how many records have you got, Darren (or the fictional person in your example)? You're only going to get value from the Furutech brush if you own enough records to take advantage of its benefits
Marco.
Darren
KORUS CUSTOM SERVER
TECHNICS 1200 MKII_JELCO 750D_SHURE SC35C (with NOS and NEO SAS styli)
CAIMAN SEG + DORADO PSU
CROFT MEGA MICRO
PARADIGM REFERENCE ACTIVE/40'S
PARADIGM SERVO 15 SUBWOOFER X 2
''The theory of relativity is a mass of error and deceptive ideas violently opposed to the teachings of great men of science of the past and even to common sense''
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I'm colin.
I have a Roksan brush, brilliant at cleaning out dust from the grooves but terrible for introducing static.
The Furutech appears to be based on a sound principle. They appear to work like some of the better brushes that come with an earthing strap. Of course you become the earth. I think its good its goats hair to because i find carbon bristles can scratch.
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On balance, I'd say get the Isonoes, but if vinyl was your preferred music format, and you owned 1000+ records and played a percentage of them every day for many hours (as I do, for example), then there'd be a very good case for buying the SK2 before the Isonoesi have between about 250-300,but was thinking more hypothetically just out of interest.
Quite simply, there is now a sure-fire procedure for having records, which in terms of pops and crackles, are completely silent during playback:
1) To start with, only buy brand new vinyl and/or second-hand vinyl in MINT condition.
2) Use a quality RCM, together with an effective record cleaning solution.
3) Once records are cleaned, pop 'em into a Nagaoka (or Mo-Fi) anti-static sleeve.
4) Before playback, swipe records once with a Furutech brush.
Then sit back and enjoy silent and flawless reproduction of your favourite music. That's exactly now what I do!
Marco.
Main System
Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.
Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.
Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.
CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.
Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.
Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.
Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.
Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.
Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.
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I'm Allthatwasisorwillbe.
i've noticed this as well with brand new vinyl,mind you im using a crap £5 brush
Darren
KORUS CUSTOM SERVER
TECHNICS 1200 MKII_JELCO 750D_SHURE SC35C (with NOS and NEO SAS styli)
CAIMAN SEG + DORADO PSU
CROFT MEGA MICRO
PARADIGM REFERENCE ACTIVE/40'S
PARADIGM SERVO 15 SUBWOOFER X 2
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Location: Berkshire uk
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I'm Allthatwasisorwillbe.
that seems to make sense.I am finding on my days off that im listening to way more vinyl now i have the ts psu but still trying to get the balance between buying records and upgrading.On balance, I'd say get the Isonoes, but if vinyl was your preferred music format, and you owned 1000+ records and played a percentage of them every day for many hours (as I do, for example), then there'd be a very good case for buying the SK2 before the Isonoes
Marco.
Darren
KORUS CUSTOM SERVER
TECHNICS 1200 MKII_JELCO 750D_SHURE SC35C (with NOS and NEO SAS styli)
CAIMAN SEG + DORADO PSU
CROFT MEGA MICRO
PARADIGM REFERENCE ACTIVE/40'S
PARADIGM SERVO 15 SUBWOOFER X 2
''The theory of relativity is a mass of error and deceptive ideas violently opposed to the teachings of great men of science of the past and even to common sense''
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Location: London
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I'm colin.
Theres a lot of different opinions on brushes but the one thing i tried with great results for cleaning records was the Knosti cleaning system.
Its boring to use and the cleaning fluid is nasty. Plus you have to rinse the record with de ionised water. Even then i found some muck left behind that the stylus cleans out. Not ideal. But its better than any of the cheap brushes.
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