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  1. #141
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    Good question!!!!!!
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    All I can say is that the question regarding the Gator upgrade has been answered time and time again in this thread. I refer you to the first opening lines in the thread on page 1.
    As for how good it is: you'll have to spend serious money to get any other DAC to sound this good for so little, or your money back. Which other DAC manufacturer can offer you the same level of confidence when you hand over your hard earned cash ?

    As for any other product in the future etc.: wrong thread to ask those questions. The forum inspector would be round in a flash with is baseball bat to keep us in line.

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    I can't see any comparison of passive vs Gator in terms of sound quality (not signal level).
    TT 1 Trans-Fi Salvation with magnetic bearing + Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro + London Reference
    TT 2 Garrard 301 with NWA main bearing + Audiomods Series Six 10.5" + Ortofon 2M Mono SE
    Digital Lindemann Bridge + Gustard R26 with LB external clock
    Pre and Power Amp EWA M40P + M40A
    Bass Amp & DSP Behringer iNuke NU3000DSP x 2
    Speakers 1 Bastanis Sagarmatha Duo with twin baffleless 15" bass drivers per side
    Speakers 2 MarkaudioSota Viotti Tower

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    I can't see any comparison of passive vs Gator in terms of sound quality (not signal level).
    If you start reading from http://www.theartofsound.net/forum/s...t=7623&page=13 there are a number of comments from users who have done comparisons .

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    The comparisons are not that clear. Graybags was vs some polyester caps, I'm not sure what Peter Galbay had before so the comparisons are not huge definitive yet...are they?
    TT 1 Trans-Fi Salvation with magnetic bearing + Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro + London Reference
    TT 2 Garrard 301 with NWA main bearing + Audiomods Series Six 10.5" + Ortofon 2M Mono SE
    Digital Lindemann Bridge + Gustard R26 with LB external clock
    Pre and Power Amp EWA M40P + M40A
    Bass Amp & DSP Behringer iNuke NU3000DSP x 2
    Speakers 1 Bastanis Sagarmatha Duo with twin baffleless 15" bass drivers per side
    Speakers 2 MarkaudioSota Viotti Tower

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    What exactly are you hoping to read or have existing user write about Clive ? I am sure more comments will be forthcoming as customers get their Gator through the post. Some parcels are still stuck in a Royal Mail sorting office, whilst others are in flight to foreign lands.

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    Hi Stan,

    The Caiman is superb of that there is no doubt. The question I asked was about the objectives of the Gator design. I already understand that it modifies the volume from the passive mod and also provides for headphones - great.

    My question was about the sound quality achieved vs the passive mod (same or better). If it is an upgrade I will end up going for one.

    Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrism View Post
    My question was about the sound quality achieved vs the passive mod (same or better). If it is an upgrade I will end up going for one.
    Hi Chris, as I wrote in the first entry of this thread:
    I wanted to find a solution for the low output of the passive mod and preserve the headphone output capability.
    In other words. It's damn good. And I offer a full refund on the Gator if anyone is not completely satisfied with its performance. But please take note that:
    1. You should only buy the Gator if you have tried the passive mod, but need a higher output.
    2. You are not confident with fitting the passive mod and experimenting with caps, but you want to experience the improved SQ offered by these mods.

    I have only made 200 pieces since it's a hobbyist project. That's why it is in the Drawing Board. So please only order one if you definitely want to experience the magic that the Gator brings to the sound of the TC-7520 and Caiman. It's not a 'me-too' product, but one squarely aimed at the discerning listener who would appreciate its enhanced performance through a decent set of amps and speakers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyB View Post
    Hi Chris, as I wrote in the first entry of this thread:
    I wanted to find a solution for the low output of the passive mod and preserve the headphone output capability.
    In other words. It's damn good. And I offer a full refund on the Gator if anyone is not completely satisfied with its performance. But please take note that:
    1. You should only buy the Gator if you have tried the passive mod, but need a higher output.
    2. You are not confident with fitting the passive mod and experimenting with caps, but you want to experience the improved SQ offered by these mods.

    I have only made 200 pieces since it's a hobbyist project. That's why it is in the Drawing Board. So please only order one if you definitely want to experience the magic that the Gator brings to the sound of the TC-7520 and Caiman. It's not a 'me-too' product, but one squarely aimed at the discerning listener who would appreciate its enhanced performance through a decent set of amps and speakers.
    Hi Stan,

    Thank you for the time taken to answer my query. It would appear that as a very happy "Passive Output" user that I will not need to purchase a Gator afterall. I am not sure what the reference to "me-too" means though and yes I can confirm that I enjoy a rather "special" Power amp and cracking speaker setup.

    Best regards

    Chris

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    Received mine today!

    It was worth the wait though. I didn't really like the sound I was getting from my speakers before but the gator board has transformed this. Everything just comes to life so effortlessly now and is so well balanced.
    Rob

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