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  1. #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo View Post
    Hi Neil,

    Petroleum jelly is insoluble in water and is a water repellent and is used in conjunction with other materials to produce rust-proof treatments. Rather than being a liquid, it is categorised as a semi-solid.
    People who spend time doing serious yatching (in an environment where everything is prone to get wet at any moment of the day or night) smear vaseline onto the contacts of batteries as a means of knowing that their portable appliances and emergency motors will start and continue to work.

    Here's a quote from Yatching & Boating World (a forum):

    More years ago than I care to remember, I too was trained to clean terminals before connection and to use petroleum jelly (afterwards) to protect the joint. If, whatever it was, then had to live in a particularly harsh environment, it was to be wrapped in “denso” tape.

    Decades, yes, decades later, I have pulled equipment out of service to find perfectly preserved, functioning joints.

    Wire wool had been the tool of choice for cleaning until that green (why green) abrasive material came along.

    Ah, happy days……..we all had to sing “all things bright and beautiful” before cleaning up to make a joint or slapping the flux on and soldering.

    I had never ever imagined being able to qualify to recount stories like this, just goes with seniority I guess !

    Oh, silicone grease (looks like Vaseline) is not (do I need to repeat that?) the same.


    http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=227473



    On the other hand, you suggest Talc.
    This is a material that is renowned for it's use in preventing things sticking together. True, it has a low electrical conductivity, but it don't half get into things because it has such fine particles.

    Interesting stuff Chris.




    Regards D S D L

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    Having said all of the above, I don't think I'd like to clean a load of vaseline off my hifi, if the experiment didn't suit my expectations. But boy, it certainly will make a good seal - such a sandwich would probably constitute a constrained layer damping technique (if you feel you need to apply labels to such things!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Grand Wazoo View Post
    such a sandwich would probably constitute a constrained layer damping technique (if you feel you need to apply labels to such things!)
    Thanks Chris, but I don't think I'll include it in my signature

  4. #284
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    ....besides you're having way too much fun to care doing naughty new things with your tub of Vaseline!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Guys,
    If google crawl and see too much reference to vaseline this site may end up in the sandbox as it could be construed as a sex shop!

    It would be nice to know where else one can buy platters and bearings as I certainly don't intend to spend 2k on platter PSU and bearing, I personally don't think it will make such a massive night and day difference compared to a good arm, cartridge and mat on the stock platter but I have known to be wrong (once in 1967!).

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    Lol - if you bring your newly-fettled Techie down sometime over the Xmas hols, or in the New Year, I'll gladly educate you to the contrary!



    It'd be good to have a sesh, anyway, and clean a batch of your records!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  7. #287
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    Marco,
    Don't know your personal circumstances but I have a wife and 2 demanding children. No way in god's earth she would let me go to your neck of the woods to listen to music even though I would love to!

    Maybe I can arrange to go see my mate in Port Talbot and see you on the way back!

  8. #288
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    Whatever works for you, dude

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  9. #289
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mains Cables R Us View Post
    Each day goes by another tweak comes along for the Technics, I have plenty of grease, maybe we should try different types as it comes in 3 or 4 different thicknesses? I have some extra tacky grease as well and even some with clay powder mixed in, that is red coloured though, I think clear would be best maybe?
    I think perhaps people should also bear in mind, that the fundamental act of using a substance in this way for greater sonic capability from their TTs and mats, is not restricted to the SL1200 alone. There are probably many people out there who are ignorant of these things to the detriment of the ultimate sonic quality that could be obtained from what ever combination they are using.

    I guess it is because of the fertile discussions on this forum and the Sl1200 threads in particular, that we all benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalek Supreme D L View Post
    I hate to say it but I predict grease/vaseline migration into the electrics and tears. I personally don't think any semi fluid of any type should be applied to electronic items.....what will happen if a drop falls inside onto electrified workings

    I will be sticking to dry options.

    Good luck...maybe I am wrong but I am going to err to the side of extreme caution.


    Regards D S D L
    With all due respects your comments on this subject would appear to be somewhat un-informed if not totally so!!. As stated earlier by others, petroleum jelly or any substance of this nature are essentially insulators. Indeed good quality transformers are filled with oil!!!!!!!!!!! Secondly how would you envisage that the matterial is going to get onto the electrics???? by crawling there.
    Last edited by Mike_New; 11-12-2010 at 05:26.

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