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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    Hi Maco

    Can you buy it direct from arthur ? looked around and best price is £75
    I don't know whether Arthur has many dealers in the UK, but if he sold you a mat at "trade," wouldn't it be short-circuiting his dealer network? Hifi dave and I have seen enough of this in the past and it's killing the smaller dealer off if the client can obtain direct at a discount.

    Having said the above, I do know of certain online manufacturers of audio gear who seem to sell at what could be full retail price, thereby making their profit and the dealer's too, had there been any dealers in the first place, thus having their cake and eating it - twice - lucky beggars
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Hi Dave,

    If Arthur sells any Achromats direct then it will most certainly be at full retail price, as he has a small dealer network to consider. He's too professional to do anything else

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    ........ The Achromat thing was totally unplanned and happened as a result of Arthur contacting me to audition his new tonearm......

    Marco.
    Just been reading Dave Price's review of the FXR 11 Tonearm in HiFi world.
    What REALLY interested me, although Dave didn't expand on it, was that he had heard the arm on his Techy, as well as a Funk Saffire. Now, that is an interesting comparison (sorry for thread drift).

    Steve

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    Indeed... He also compared the FXR to an SME V, and apparently it pissed all over that, which doesn't surprise me

    The SME V is probably the most overrated arm on the planet! But some folk will insist on jerking off over owning 'desirable badges'...

    I'm looking forward to listening to the FXR - it's design philosophy is right up my street, as I love 'race-tuned' products with no undeserved pretentions, so I'm expecting it to be another 'giant-killer', high on SPPV!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Indeed... He also compared the FXR to an SME V, and apparently it pissed all over that, which doesn't surprise me

    The SME V is probably the most overrated arm on the planet! But some folk will insist on jerking off over owning 'desirable badges'...

    I'm looking forward to listening to the FXR - it's design philosophy is right up my street, as I love 'race-tuned' products with no undeserved pretentions, so I'm expecting it to be another 'giant-killer', high on SPPV!

    Marco.
    Ahh... but what you going to do if the Saphire, sorry Saffire, pisses all over the Techy?

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    I predict a riot
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Ahh... but what you going to do if the Saphire, sorry Saffire, pisses all over the Techy?
    Hahaha... Well, if it's better, it's better, and as always I would acknowledge that

    I do rate Arthur's designs very highly.

    However, it would have to go some to beat the sound Martin T and I had going on at his place with his Techie/Dynavector and Mike New's platter and the Paul Hynes SR5-21, which was just mind blowing!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Its interesting isn't it?
    The Saffire is a belt driven 'direct drive'... vs the DD Techy.

    The Technics seems to have evolved in substantial leaps of late. Then you may well add the FXR into the mix. and how might that stack up against the Jelco?

    What does it all add up to in costs? Think the Saffire deck is at £3k now.? I might be wrong. How much are all those Techy mods plus a deck?

    Who says vinyl is dead? And all for the price of a Keel and a pie and a pint. !!

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    Hi Steve,

    Indeed it is interesting... The market has never been flooded with as many genuinely top-notch T/Ts, EVER - not even in the so-called heyday of vinyl (people have never had it so good), so what does that tell you?

    The Saffire I would rate as a superb T/T, although subject to hearing one properly I would *suspect* that my Techie (as is) with all the mods done to it, particularly with the Mike New bearing and Paul Hynes SR5 PSU, which really do catapult the Techie into something very special, would still trump it, and at roughly the same price.

    Quite honestly, when I get the Mike New platter (my version of it), I'd put the Techie up against pretty much any T/T in the world at any price - a bold statement, yes, but one I'd be confident of defending or demonstrating if need be

    I'm sure though Arthur will be reading this and having a giggle!

    Marco.

    P.S Keel? Pah - only for mugs with more money than sense!!
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Yeah... but will it glow in the dark?

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