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  1. #61
    Join Date: Nov 2009

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    I'm Juha.

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    Hugo you are the man .

    I had the collar waiting for me when I came back home from work. Really quick delivery, cannot thank you enough .

    The finish is outstanding and once I took the old original Jelco collar off the TT I realized how flimsy it really is. No wonder Koetsu uses much heavier collar in their tonearm, which is basically same as Jelco without the heavier collar and headshell.

    It was the easiest upgrade I have ever made. There is no need for adjusting both sides of the tonearm pillar separately anymore, the centered collar screw will make sure the tonearm pillar is dead accurate just by tightening it, great

    Great job and many thanks again. I cannot help sending few pictures of it. It
    will work just perfectly with my black Jelco.
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    My Gear

    Source components:
    Garrard 401 in a solid birch plywood plinth / Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro / ESCo modified Denon DL-103
    Pioneer TX-9800 tuner
    Amplification:
    Art Audio Diavolo and Conductor, Pair of XTZ Sub Amp 1's, Nick G 'Dual Phono' phono stage
    Loudspeakers:
    Bastanis Mandala Atlas with 15" sealed woofers
    Cables:
    Analysis Plus: Big Silver Oval speaker cables and Silver Oval-in interconnects, Mark Grant DSP 2.5 Dual Screened power cables
    Record cleaning
    Nitty Gritty 1.5Fi MK II

  2. #62
    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK

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    I'm AudioAl'sArbiterForPISHANTO.

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    Hi Hugo,

    Marco has just highlighted a minor problem with the collar, which applies to Technics SL-1200/1210 users who have the Sound HiFi armboard with the recessed centre section. The M6 grub screw is set too far into the collar to get the allen key in, without the allen key fouling the surrounding armboard and the Technics' chassis. The solution is simple - I shall get a load of longer M6 grub screws, which should mean that you will be able to use the short part of the allen key without difficulty and with no risk of fouling any adjacent part of the record player. The longer grub screws will be posted out to everyone pronto (eg tomorrow)!
    No big deal - it'll be sorted with the longer grub screw

    The arm collar is definitely a quality piece of kit and a major upgrade on the stock Jelco item!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

  3. #63
    Join Date: Nov 2008

    Location: North Down /Northern Ireland/ UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuggie View Post
    Marco has just highlighted a minor problem with the collar, which applies to Technics SL-1200/1210 users who have the Sound HiFi armboard with the recessed centre section. The M6 grub screw is set too far into the collar to get the allen key in, without the allen key fouling the surrounding armboard and the Technics' chassis. The solution is simple - I shall get a load of longer M6 grub screws, which should mean that you will be able to use the short part of the allen key without difficulty and with no risk of fouling any adjacent part of the record player. The longer grub screws will be posted out to everyone pronto (eg tomorrow)!

    My apologies for this little niggle - I don't have a Technics any more so did not anticipate the problem.

    I have the problem too


    Thanks Hugo, see my comments about you in the buyers section in Private Exhibitions.


    Regards D S D L

  4. #64
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    I'm Neil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Hugo,



    No big deal - it'll be sorted with the longer grub screw

    The arm collar is definitely a quality piece of kit and a major upgrade on the stock Jelco item!

    Marco.

    Agreed its stunningly better


    Regards D S D L

  5. #65
    Join Date: Nov 2008

    Location: North Down /Northern Ireland/ UK

    Posts: 19,474
    I'm Neil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by selfaddict View Post
    Hugo you are the man .

    I had the collar waiting for me when I came back home from work. Really quick delivery, cannot thank you enough .

    The finish is outstanding and once I took the old original Jelco collar off the TT I realized how flimsy it really is. No wonder Koetsu uses much heavier collar in their tonearm, which is basically same as Jelco without the heavier collar and headshell.

    It was the easiest upgrade I have ever made. There is no need for adjusting both sides of the tonearm pillar separately anymore, the centered collar screw will make sure the tonearm pillar is dead accurate just by tightening it, great

    Great job and many thanks again. I cannot help sending few pictures of it. It
    will work just perfectly with my black Jelco.

    What a beautiful system you have


    Regards D S D L

  6. #66
    Join Date: Nov 2009

    Location: Finland

    Posts: 365
    I'm Juha.

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    I have to try to keep wife happy , so she always has the final say what the kit looks like, but I have all the control how it sounds like

    I do not know who has the upper hand, but I am very pleased of the overall synergy between different components. The last missing piece of the puzzle will be my new phono stage. Once phono stage is with me, that is the end of box swapping for a long time: Time just to enjoy that sweet, warm and fulfilling music that only valves can bring to us
    My Gear

    Source components:
    Garrard 401 in a solid birch plywood plinth / Trans-Fi Terminator T3Pro / ESCo modified Denon DL-103
    Pioneer TX-9800 tuner
    Amplification:
    Art Audio Diavolo and Conductor, Pair of XTZ Sub Amp 1's, Nick G 'Dual Phono' phono stage
    Loudspeakers:
    Bastanis Mandala Atlas with 15" sealed woofers
    Cables:
    Analysis Plus: Big Silver Oval speaker cables and Silver Oval-in interconnects, Mark Grant DSP 2.5 Dual Screened power cables
    Record cleaning
    Nitty Gritty 1.5Fi MK II

  7. #67
    Join Date: Oct 2010

    Location: North Bucks, UK

    Posts: 561
    I'm Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shuggie View Post
    Ron

    I did PM you details yesterday and have sent another PM today. If you're not receiving the PMs, do let me know via this thread and I'll get Marco onto it.

    Regards
    Thanks for coming back, appreciated, hope I'm not too late for one of your Jelco collars? No, did not get your PM. I sent you one today?

    If you still got one going put my name on it please and I'll send you the money?
    Thanks

    Jazz
    (Ron)

  8. #68
    Join Date: Oct 2010

    Location: North Bucks, UK

    Posts: 561
    I'm Ron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JazzBones View Post
    Thanks for coming back, appreciated, hope I'm not too late for one of your Jelco collars? No, did not get your PM. I sent you one today?

    If you still got one going put my name on it please and I'll send you the money?
    Thanks

    Jazz
    (Ron)
    Shuggie and Marco, please disregard earlier post, have seen your PM and replied via email. Sorry for my mistake

    Jazz
    (Ron)

  9. #69
    Join Date: Jan 2009

    Location: Norwich

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    I'm Hugo.

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    I am sending out longer grub screws today to those that need them. That should deal with the problem that Marco highlighted. Also, collars (with the longer grub screw fitted) are being sent to Vinylspinner, Bubba45 and Jazzbones.

  10. #70
    Join Date: Jan 2008

    Location: Wrexham, North Wales, UK

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    Nice one - many thanks!

    I've temporarily sorted the problem by sitting the T/T on its side, so I can get the Allen key in, and adjusting VTA in small increments, going back and forth that way until I got it bang on

    I'll look forward to getting the longer grub screw though to prevent such a headache in future...

    Later I'll be listening to see what the sonic effect of the new collar is, if any, and will report my thoughts here

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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