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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyB View Post
    That's a different ball game though.
    Based on my own experiments, an upscaled 44.1KHz version of the album "Hotel California" sounded worse then the original 44.1KHz version.
    But the official 24/96KHz release sounded better than the 16/44.1KHz and 16/96KHz upscaled version.

    Please note that upscalng appears to affect only the frequency, not the bit depth according to my findings. If anyone else got the bits to also upscale from 16 to 24, I'll be interested to know what the equipment was that you used.
    Foobar lets you up the bitrate to 24bit.

    ..at least the setting SAYS you can.
    cant you?
    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    Quote Originally Posted by StanleyB View Post
    That's a different ball game though.
    Based on my own experiments, an upscaled 44.1KHz version of the album "Hotel California" sounded worse then the original 44.1KHz version.
    But the official 24/96KHz release sounded better than the 16/44.1KHz and 16/96KHz upscaled version.

    Please note that upscalng appears to affect only the frequency, not the bit depth according to my findings. If anyone else got the bits to also upscale from 16 to 24, I'll be interested to know what the equipment was that you used.
    Yes indeed Stan.I haven't yet heard an upsampling dac,but most of what I have read concurs with your findings

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    Agree about the Hotel California 24/96 also.I have it,and it's definately superior to the red book IMO.

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    The only benefit to upscaling is that it pushes the brickwall filtering further up the frequency spectrum and reduces high frequency hash close to the theoretical 22.05kHz maximum. As Stan says, it cannot add information that was not there in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinT View Post
    The only benefit to upscaling is that it pushes the brickwall filtering further up the frequency spectrum and reduces high frequency hash close to the theoretical 22.05kHz maximum. As Stan says, it cannot add information that was not there in the first place.
    Thanks for that Martin,
    If it moves the digital hash towards being outwith the range of hearing...its a good thing I guess...
    maybe akin to making the best of the 16/44 information you already have then?
    Can you hear it though?
    Last edited by Gazjam; 01-10-2010 at 12:56.
    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    Agree about the Hotel California 24/96 also.I have it,and it's definately superior to the red book IMO.
    The files are actually 24/192.
    The red book CD is very poor in comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reid Malenfant View Post
    You are highly unlikely to get any difference in audible bass level from changing a 1uf cap to 1.6uf All you'll be doing is shifting the -3Db frequency lower & it'll already be sub 10Hz.
    As I am new to the world of DIY HiFi electronics I wonder what would be a difference in bass or overall sound quality when compared 1uF cap with 47uF capacitor?

    I want to compare it higher values as the sound difference from 1uF and 1.6uF is minor (from this post http://theartofsound.net/forum/showp...&postcount=692)

    I know I can insert the caps and hear it for myself, but want to know about theory too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stratmangler View Post
    The files are actually 24/192.
    The red book CD is very poor in comparison.
    Ah yes,had forgotten Chris.The Touch won't play192 though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    Ah yes,had forgotten Chris.The Touch won't play192 though.
    That's because you're running it from the tinySC (internal server).
    If you're running it from a computer or intelligent NAS you should be able to get the serving machine to downsample on the fly.

    Actually, the NAS thing may not necessarily work.
    It all depends on how you are serving the music files, and whether the device carrying the server client is up to the job in hand - downsampling is quite processor intensive
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    Just got the Guruplug,finally! Will be fiddling this weekend to see if I can get it running. Don't have a clue about linux though,so should be fun!

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