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    Hi, it looks like i can't post or even pm you now, no idea why i could not receive pm from you leo... the receive message from other box is checked in my option..

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    Hi gabdx,

    All has been explained in an email

    Please, as per our policy and request to you, pop into the welcome room and briefly intoriduce yourself and your system to our members.

    What is your first name?

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    Hi Gabriel,

    Thank you for complying with our request. Welcome, and please continue to enjoy the forum

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

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    Must admit Marco I do much prefer to call people by their proper name, it seems a bit odd saying hi to some of the strange usernames

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    Yep, that's the whole point of why we ask people to sign posts with their real names. Therefore your username can be 'toxiccockhead405' as long as you sign it as 'Frank', or whatever. You can even make up a Christian name if you like as long as it sounds 'real'!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Right now my dac doesnt work at all voltages seems extremely low, i am going to recheck the power supply and evrything ,

    Leo ! now i can post thanks Marco , now for the serious part , i have the bottlehead
    preamp with a 33 K resistor in the input ,

    I also have another integrated amp with a 100 K volume pot...

    Both are unbalanced in, so can i plug (with capacitors of course) the unbalanced cirrus chip into one of these ???

    EDIT : the cirrus output used to be 2.5 v DC , now its 0.7 DC and some 0.4 AC... weird , i checked the power supply and its all good 4.7 V and 13 V close enough. The RCA voltages are just around milivolts of DC
    On ac the RCA are varying with music around 0.2 Volts AC if i only touch the + or - with one leg of the voltmeter /
    If getting a ground point and touching the + or - on the RCA i get around 0.5 Volts

    Bottom line i hear no sound !
    Last edited by gabdx; 21-07-2008 at 17:45.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yep, that's the whole point of why we ask people to sign posts with their real names. Therefore your username can be 'toxiccockhead405' as long as you sign it as 'Frank', or whatever. You can even make up a Christian name if you like as long as it sounds 'real'!

    Marco.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yep, that's the whole point of why we ask people to sign posts with their real names. Therefore your username can be 'toxiccockhead405' as long as you sign it as 'Frank', or whatever. You can even make up a Christian name if you like as long as it sounds 'real'!

    Marco.
    Toxiccockhead405 is actually my real first name, I just use Iain for forums

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    Quote Originally Posted by gabdx View Post
    Right now my dac doesnt work at all voltages seems extremely low, i am going to recheck the power supply and evrything ,

    Leo ! now i can post thanks Marco , now for the serious part , i have the bottlehead
    preamp with a 33 K resistor in the input ,

    I also have another integrated amp with a 100 K volume pot...

    Both are unbalanced in, so can i plug (with capacitors of course) the unbalanced cirrus chip into one of these ???

    EDIT : the cirrus output used to be 2.5 v DC , now its 0.7 DC and some 0.4 AC... weird , i checked the power supply and its all good 4.7 V and 13 V close enough.
    Hi Gabriel

    Bloomin heck, how did you manage that l

    If your 5v supplies are a lot lower than normal you probably have something dragging it down, could be anything from a short to bad instability somewhere .
    You could try posting a close up pic of your dac and we can look for possible faults.

    I presume you mean can you plug the output of the dac chip directly into the pre-amp through coupling caps?
    If so, yes you can but I wouldn't recommend doing this with a solid state pre amp if it only has single line in rather than balanced.
    You won't get the benefit of the noise canceling without a differential to line out using this type of dac, you'll also have no output filtering, it may sound pretty nasty, you can of course try it, using something like the lampizator valve stage makes things a little more forgiving when using the dacs direct negative left and right out.
    You can also try it with your bottlehead pre, I've no idea what it will sound like but just be careful if you give it a go

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    You edited before I posted

    I presume this 0.7v DC is what you are measuring at the dacs differential outputs to ground and not on the line out after the op-amp?

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