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The tape machine used to record the first three tracks on the original 1959 recording ran 1.25% too slow., hence on replay those tracks sound fast. The fault was not found until 1992, and since then all subsequent LPs and CDs have all tracks running at the correct speed.
Those comparison sites are IMO unhelpful and just cause confusion. Sounds like the CD version you have is fine.
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That sedond link I put in my last post covers thirty-odd versions (vinyl, CD, SACD) with measurements included. Might even include yours and Maccas ones.Originally Posted by Barry
The tape machine used to record the first three tracks on the original 1959 recording ran 1.25% too slow., hence on replay those tracks sound fast. The fault was not found until 1992, and since then all subsequent LPs and CDs have all tracks running at the correct speed.
Those comparison sites are IMO unhelpful and just cause confusion. Sounds like the CD version you have is fine.
The article did give information on this 'wrong speed' thing. One of the vinyl issues reviewed is a double album, with one disc wrong speed, and the other corrected speed. Some folk take all of this a bit too seriously!
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The two CDs I have are Columbia/Legacy CK 64935, and a double CD (NOT2CD428 (2012) ) which has stereo versions on one CD and mono versions of the same tracks on the second CD. The CK 64935 is reviewed on the site you cite, the double CD I have is not reviewed, but an earlier pressing ( NOT2C335 (2010) ) is.
Both receive good reviews and both have a dynamic range rating of DR13, considered to be good.
Which CD do you have Steve?
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Glass Bead Games
Clifford Jordan
Released by Mack Avenue Records
25 April 2025 • 12 Tracks • 01h 04m 00s
Last edited by Tim; 25-04-2026 at 08:20.
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Good morning Barry, yes my CD is also the Columbia/Legacy one. The notes on the back of the case make mention of an "all tube three track machine" (whatever that is), which makes the instruments sound more rich and full apparently, compared to the "thin and piping" sound of earlier digital remasterings. All I know is it sounds fine to me
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Cliff Craft (2019 Digitally Remastered)
Clifford Jordan
Here's two examples of mastering issues with streaming mentioned elsewhere. I'd like to listen to the 1957 Cliff Craft album, but Qobuz only has the 2019 remaster. Likewise Glass Bead Games I played yesterday is a 2025 Hi Res remaster, not the 1974 album. I would like to listen to the original, not the remaster.
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Miles Davis - 'Kind of Blue'
A Nimbus 'Supercut' pressing. Only 1,000 copies were made, (and yours for £568!).
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That's a real artefact. Great copy to have.
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Love the version of Take Five on this recording.
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2015 24/96 Remaster on Tidal, sounds awesome.
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