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    Once in a while I hear the odd slight click.. They usually come in little groups of clicks then don't happen for a while....?
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    Maybe the lack of muting causing this?

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    Mine are only slotted into the sockets I took the active thing out of... I thought that meant the muting thing was still in there?
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    Muting only happens between tracks. If you hear clicks during listening then it's errors in the data or original mastering.

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    It's not happend again for ages now... And I can't remember which track it was on rumours I heard it... Il have to listen to it all through again sometime. I know something right is happening as I just realised I have just been listening to the music for the last 20 mins and forgot about the dac...
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    I've finally done the passive mod on my 7520. The only mod it had was a THS4032 opamp. For capacitors I used Obbligato 1uF, these capacitors are well used so burn-in really isn't needed. Transport is XP/Foobar/ASIO/USB.

    The effect was very dramatic. Sound stage is much deeper, there's more bass and the bass is tighter. Treble is less splashy. Overall it sounds a heck of a lot less digital and more like my record decks, especially with regard to sound stage depth.

    Hmmm, Wolfson next I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive View Post
    I've finally done the passive mod on my 7520. The only mod it had was a THS4032 opamp. For capacitors I used Obbligato 1uF, these capacitors are well used so burn-in really isn't needed. Transport is XP/Foobar/ASIO/USB.

    The effect was very dramatic. Sound stage is much deeper, there's more bass and the bass is tighter. Treble is less splashy. Overall it sounds a heck of a lot less digital and more like my record decks, especially with regard to sound stage depth.

    Hmmm, Wolfson next I suppose.
    Thinking of going the wolfson route too but Im unsure if it would really make that big of a difference after the passive mod

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    Quote Originally Posted by drumlins4ever View Post
    Thinking of going the wolfson route too but Im unsure if it would really make that big of a difference after the passive mod
    I must admit I'm unsure. The only aspect that betrays the 7520 passive as digital is a slight harshness on sibilants, this is a redbook trait I just about always hear. I worry that a Wolfson could make this worse due to greater clarity, or could it be smoother?

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    Sounds good Clive,and the kind of sound I'm after.I'm waiting for some Obbligatos from diyhifisupply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    Sounds good Clive,and the kind of sound I'm after.I'm waiting for some Obbligatos from diyhifisupply.
    Ali, if you get the same result I'm sure you'll be pleased. I can't imagine that any polarised caps can be as good, even BGs, though they may get close. Larger values such as 47uF I expect won't help either.

    This sound is seriously good.....previously I'd stopped listening to my wavs as my record decks were not simply better but had a much more musical character. The main deck / arm / cartridge is close to being a £5k combination. The 7520 passive isn't disgraced, it's not as good but it's possible now to swap between them and not feel short-changed.

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