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    I agree it sounds like you may have a slightly noisy transformer in your MF A5.

    I'd consider trying a DC blocker. The Audiolab DC Block is pretty good, and I currently use one to cure a buzzing toroidal transformer in my set-up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    I'm wondering if this Silent Coat might help me...

    There is a small amount of mechanical buzz comes from my Musical Fidelity A5 integrated (only audible when close to it, the buzz only comes from the unit, doesn't come from the speakers, and does not increase with volume). It's a common thing with these amps, where users suggest it may be a consequence of varying voltages.

    Maybe Silent Coat could deaden the sound to some degree, what do you think?
    If its buzzing, its vibrating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Desmo View Post
    I agree it sounds like you may have a slightly noisy transformer in your MF A5.

    I'd consider trying a DC blocker. The Audiolab DC Block is pretty good, and I currently use one to cure a buzzing toroidal transformer in my set-up.
    Cures the buzz but does it knacker the sound?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Cures the buzz but does it knacker the sound?
    Yes, I have read of some users have used DC blockers with some success, with others saying it killed the dynamics to some degree.
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

    T/T: Inspire Monarch, X200 tonearm, Ortofon Quintet Blue. Phono: Project Tube Box CD: Marantz CD6006 (UK Edition); Amp: Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated.
    Speakers: KEF Reference 3, REL T9i subwoofer. Cables: Atlas Equator interconnects, Atlas Hyper 3.0 speaker cables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    If its buzzing, its vibrating!
    'Buzzing' might not be the best description for the sound, but it is not like the kind of hum you might hear associated with earthing problems. In a phone conversation with John Sampson of JS Audio last year I mentioned it as an afterthought (it really doesn't bother me much) he just said something along the lines of 'very common, just one of those things'.

    Still might be worth me trying this Silent Coat though.

    Sorry about the thread hijack Kev.
    I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in

    T/T: Inspire Monarch, X200 tonearm, Ortofon Quintet Blue. Phono: Project Tube Box CD: Marantz CD6006 (UK Edition); Amp: Musical Fidelity A5 Integrated.
    Speakers: KEF Reference 3, REL T9i subwoofer. Cables: Atlas Equator interconnects, Atlas Hyper 3.0 speaker cables

    T'other system:
    Echo Dot, Arcam A75 integrated, Monitor Audio R852 MD speakers
    A/V:
    LG OLED65 G56LS, Panasonic Blu Ray, Sony a/v amp, MA Radius speakers, REL T9i sub.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    'Buzzing' might not be the best description for the sound, but it is not like the kind of hum you might hear associated with earthing problems. In a phone conversation with John Sampson of JS Audio last year I mentioned it as an afterthought (it really doesn't bother me much) he just said something along the lines of 'very common, just one of those things'.

    Still might be worth me trying this Silent Coat though.

    Sorry about the thread hijack Kev.
    I have 3 very buzzy toroids in my Croft amps which I can hear very clearly when up close. When I used Silent Coat on the cases there was a noticeable reduction in noise but also less vibration getting through to my valves. I should have had them ripped out and put in a separate box but alas Glenn is no longer with us sadly.

    It is no coincidence that Glenn top of the range preamps were indeed two separate boxes with the rattly toroids separate from the rest of the delicate tubes.

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    Worth checking the central bolt in your toroid for tightness.
    Sometimes just giving it a nip with a pair of pliers can solve buzz.

    I've used silentcoat directly on transformers, didn't make it sound worse.
    Avoid RF treatment around transformers though, found it kills the top end.

    Built a DC blocker and fitted it to my balanced mains a while back?
    Quickly removed it, as dynamics and air took a hit.

    System dependant as usual of course, YMMV
    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigmy Pony View Post
    'Buzzing' might not be the best description for the sound, but it is not like the kind of hum you might hear associated with earthing problems. In a phone conversation with John Sampson of JS Audio last year I mentioned it as an afterthought (it really doesn't bother me much) he just said something along the lines of 'very common, just one of those things'.

    Still might be worth me trying this Silent Coat though.

    Sorry about the thread hijack Kev.
    No worries.

    I built one of these https://sjostromaudio.com/pages/inde...yle-heavy-duty into my Mod 686.

    Does what it says on the tin.
    I did try an external DC blocker first to see if it was DC related or pure mechanical hum.
    Fortunately for me, it was DC related. My amp is now silent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Cures the buzz but does it knacker the sound?
    The Audiolab DC Block did not knacker the sound in my setup but of course YMMV. There are quite a lot of +ve reviews of the Audiolab on the Richer Sounds site: https://www.richersounds.com/audiola...RoC0CUQAvD_BwE

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    But peakload is only 600 VA. With 800VA in my amp, it is simply not big enough.
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