Calling all SL-1200/1210 owners!

[Marco]

No worries, dude. I prefer hand cuing (it's more accurate, I feel) so I always use the finger lift

What differences did the brass counterweight make to your ears?

Marco.

[Yomanze]

See my previous post for comments on first impressions of counterweight. May I add "where the fuck did that deep bass from??" to them :P Read my earlier post back & came across like I was talking about the headshell's difference to the sound!

[Peter Stockwell]

Nice one, Yom!

The brass counterweight balances make quite a difference, particularly when you're using a 103. What improvements have you noticed?

Yes John is a great guy. Hasn't posted here for a while, though... Is his health ok do you know? Last time we spoke he wasn't very well.

The Sumiko you've got looks a bit different from the ones I've seen shown here:

http://www.needledoctor.com/Sumiko-HS12-Headshell?sc=9

Does it still have the separate stainless steel finger lift?

Marco.

The Sumiko in the picture is similiar to the one I have and to the extra one I've ordered. It comes with a black finger lift that has to be installed via the cartridge fixing bolts. I got mine from Analogue Seduction on Uk.ebay. I must be getting sick , I plan to have firstly cartridge shoot outs, and then when I'm settled with one I really like, maybe I'll get a mono cartridge.

I plan to trawl through some of the classic cartridges from the 70s, like the ADC XLM for example. First up, is a Nagaoka MP11 boron. I think my mystery Grado might be a GF3+ or some such. It seems to ring a bell.

I'm certainly that the guys in the UK have got their brass

[jimb0]

Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the Nagaoka Peter.

I think I will join the club and order a Sumiko via ebay I am trying to take things in stages so that I can understand if and what the benefits are... Like Marco really need a fingerlift on the headshell would just feel wrong without.

I also have a Pickering V-15 that I am going to try in the other headshell, cheap but very musical and great bass on my Lenco so worth a try.

J.

[Peter Stockwell]

Look forward to hearing your thoughts on the Nagaoka Peter.

Like Marco really need a fingerlift on the headshell would just feel wrong without.

I also have a Pickering V-15 that I am going to try in the other headshell, cheap but very musical and great bass on my Lenco so worth a try.

J.

Before getting the Technics I was using a spacearm (that'll have to find a loving home one day) which doesn't have a finger lift. It's a straight arm with what serves as the headshell cut at an angle, so there's room to hook over the finger. I didn't install the finger lift on my Sumiko, and use it as I used the Spacearm. But then, I like automatic transmission cars , so the cueing lever gets used.

I'll install the Nag over the weekend I'm sure, Steve S., if his reading this, is going to wonder how .

cheers

[thrunobulaxx]

I haven't noticed a lift, but don't need it :P The logo is different on my headshell as Sumiko has re-branded, mine looks identical to the one if the pic apart from that. The most immediately noticable changes to the sound is it sounds more "solid" and tangible. Decay on instruments more pronounced & vocals sound great. Will have a proper listen though before I say more!

John seemed fine health-wise, he has just knocked out three sets of counterweights hehe.

Hello boys. sorry not been around here for a while, perhaps i should explain why, i have a severe problem with prolapsed discs, and have had a couple removed so far with prolly more to come, this means i am either in too much pain to do anything/ cant stand for long at machines or off my face on codiene if i have to stand/walk for longer than a few minutes, some weeks are better than others and at the moment its not as bad as it can be, hence i was able to do a few C/W`s for those that asked.
So thats cleared that up, i wouldn`t normally explain these things on a forum but would not want anyone to feel i was i was shunning this place or not wanting to help out.
sometimes i just dont have anything interesting to say.

Glad to hear the royal mail were on the ball for once and that you are hearing the improvements made by fitting this C/W, i should have patented the thing

[jimb0]

If this is the result of you being off your face on codeine then keep on the stuff ;-)

I have stuck ended up with just the largest of the 3 weights balancing the DL110 on original headshell. To my ears there is a very positive increase in bass definition over the technics weight. My testing methodology was to play a few tracks of 'Blues & Roots' by Charles Mingus then stick the brass counterweight on and then play the whole thing ;-)

Sorry to hear you are not in the best of health John, really appreciate your efforts and would highly recommend your work to anyone else.

[scoobs]

Seconded! Many thanks for your help John, and all the best for the future.

[Peter Stockwell]

We shouldn't forget Scoobs remembered that it's 14.2mm too

[Marco]

Hello boys. sorry not been around here for a while, perhaps i should explain why, i have a severe problem with prolapsed discs, and have had a couple removed so far with prolly more to come, this means i am either in too much pain to do anything/ cant stand for long at machines or off my face on codiene if i have to stand/walk for longer than a few minutes, some weeks are better than others and at the moment its not as bad as it can be, hence i was able to do a few C/W`s for those that asked.
So thats cleared that up, i wouldn`t normally explain these things on a forum but would not want anyone to feel i was i was shunning this place or not wanting to help out.
sometimes i just dont have anything interesting to say.

Hey John, nice to hear from you again mate!

I had a feeling you weren't keeping too well, and I'm sorry it still appears to be on-going... Hopefully you'll be right as rain soon once your discs have been sorted out. Just chill mate and get well as soon as possible. We always like to hear from you so when you have the energy keep posting!

Glad to hear the royal mail were on the ball for once and that you are hearing the improvements made by fitting this C/W, i should have patented the thing

You should have! The effect on a Technics arm is a complete no-brainer. Hey maybe some royalties would be due for the person who came up with the idea?



Marco.