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Thread: Graaf Graafiti 5050 power amp - any opinions?

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    "As I am buying 'by phone', distance selling laws should apply so I can return it for a refund if it doesn't suit. "

    jerry are you really allowed to do that?
    surely you can only return if its faulty not if it doesn`t gel ok. ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hifinutt View Post
    "As I am buying 'by phone', distance selling laws should apply so I can return it for a refund if it doesn't suit. "

    jerry are you really allowed to do that?
    surely you can only return if its faulty not if it doesn`t gel ok. ?
    http://www.businesslink.gov.uk/bdotg...mId=1073792577

    "When selling to consumers by mail order, phone, fax, internet or digital TV you must give them a cooling-off period during which they have an unconditional right to cancel the contract."



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    Sadly, I won't be getting the Graaf amp until next week at the earliest. KJ aren't managing to get together the current owner to collectthe amp.
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    Well, the Graaf 5050 has finally arrived!



    What a fab amp it is. It holds my MBL speakers in a vice like grip with seemingly limitless power.

    Fast, dynamic, taut, vibrant, fast, spacious, detailed, fast, superb soundstage/imaging .... oh, and did I mention that it was fast?

    A stonkingly good amp, and an excellent match for my tastes and system.

    It came with Svetlana "winged C" 6550 power tubes, which if t'interweb is to be believed are pretty good. And some grotty EH ecc88 input tubes. I replaced the latter pronto with some Tesla pcc88 and the sound overcame its initial closed-in feel, as expected.
    I also now have some Amperex ecc88 on order and a friend is loaning me some Siemens ecc88 to try.
    I thought I had some Telefunken pcc88 toobs around, but I can't find the damn things.

    There may be a touch of 'steel' in the upper freqs to the sound, but it's OK and I'm pretty confident I can sort this with a bit of tube rolling.
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    Great to hear it workd eith those speakers
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    I like Graaf amps too, have listen to them a couple times and they definitely bring the valve goods in spades IMO.
    Don't be fooled, Graaf is Italian and they know their way in the valve world and so do they with loudspeakers, think Diapason Adamantes and alike.
    Not only gorgeous but with an unpretentious quality-sound I very like.
    Enjoy Jerry. I know for sure you made a good choice!

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    Hi Darkstar,

    What's your first name and where are you from, my friend?

    Marco.
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    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Hi Darkstar,

    What's your first name and where are you from, my friend?

    Marco.
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    Cheers, Chris. So his name's Sasha - cool. We still need a location, though

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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