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  1. #291
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    Richard,

    How are you getting on with the Sumiko - have you compared it to the Zu?

    Oh, and let me know what you want to do about the cartridge leads.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistygreenandblue View Post
    Hi Marco,

    If one took a basic 1210, what in terms of upgrades makes the most difference on the sound quality ladder?....Sit aside the arm mods - I'm more interested in a SME or modded Rega arm sat on the motor unit....How much difference does the p/s make?....I noticed in one thread either here or at PFM that Richard (Dunn) had mentioned he was looking at making a p/s for a TT....His products seem to be well priced and easily available, unlike KAB across the pond....Even though I have contacts well placed over there, customs are a wild card...I tend to ask many (on the surface stupid questions) and then quietly go and make my purchase without a lot of fanfare....I'm not sure I can do this with a TT, simply because messing around with tonearms and cartridges is not my normal hunting ground....so even more stupid questions on the horizon....
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Richard,

    How are you getting on with the Sumiko - have you compared it to the Zu?

    Oh, and let me know what you want to do about the cartridge leads.

    Marco.
    Hi Marco - haven't had much chance to do any comparisons with the Sumiko/Zu as yet but next week things are a lot quieter so I intend to get a couple of hours' fiddling done.

    I'm also looking at a PL-71 on eBay at the moment (so keep your hands off you buggers...it's mine!!)
    Richard.

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    No worries, matey. Keep me posted when you get a chance to have a play

    Just be careful going down the PL-71 route. Have you checked it can still be serviced?

    You don't want to run the risk of ending up with simply a nice looking ornament!

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Interesting stuff. I am about to start sorting out a super cheap SL1210 I got off ebay. The deck itself is solid but the arm is in a state so is going off to AudioOrigami for fettling and rewiring internally and externally. When I get it back I will be putting a Denon DL110 on it initially as a baseline and will then be looking at other possibilities. I am partcularly interested in the Audio Technica AT150mlx - has anyone got opinions on this cart?

    The other things I need are a counterweight and a headshell or two - who does the custom brass ones I have seen in some of the pics here?

    Cheers,

    J

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimb0 View Post
    The deck itself is solid but the arm is in a state so is going off to AudioOrigami for fettling and rewiring internally and externally.
    J
    Do you have more details on that, i.e. is it a single piece wire, or two piece ?

    Thanks
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    I believe it is a two piece job e.g. like with the original wiring scheme (there is a PCB involved). I have ordered a 3-piece brass counterweight from John as well which looks to be an excellent solution.

    J

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    I also have one of John's 'weights in the mail pipe. I also have KAB arm rewire on the way. That is, I ordered a new tonearm wand already rewired. But, once I've installed that I'll have a spare tonearm wand. Hmm, wonder what I could possibly do with that ? In fact I'm a bit nervous about doing the installation myself, I'm never very at ease with a soldering iron. But, KAB says that the Cardas tonearm wires come ready tinned and only need "tacking" into place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by user34 View Post
    I also have one of John's 'weights in the mail pipe.
    I have also placed an order for one :P Have had to move my counterweight right to the back with the Sumiko & Denon stuff on the end. Looks like lovely craftwork & look forward to trying it out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yomanze View Post
    Have had to move my counterweight right to the back with the Sumiko & Denon stuff on the end.
    Even with the "aux" weight ?
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