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    Nice job, I suspect that the pictures don't do it justice. I'd like a top like that in metallic black!
    Hi Peter,

    Then buy a MK5G, which has precisely that!

    That's the reason I bought one in the first place, instead of the usual MK2 most others have

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Stockwell
    Hamish,

    Nice job, I suspect that the pictures don't do it justice. I'd like a top like that in metallic black!

    BTW, What's the PSU that you are using, and was it easy to fit the bearing ?

    Thanks
    The timestep, and yes, dave phoned yesterday to point out that I had left the black cap on the motor which is aparently not a good idea, but that was the only mistake I made... I think...
    I am having a minor issue with the deck since my fiddlings but it seems it isn't a problem and fixable. I'm fairly useless at this sort of thing, but I managed to do it all with only a slight hicup, and a completely dismantled and rebuilt the whole deck!
    I wouldn't worry about the legistics of it if your thinking about doing 1210 mods your self ... Once you get your head round what's what, they are very simple in the way they are put together really... Apart from the stock arm, nothing seems to fiddley to me!


    Marco, isn't your deck just a gloss black? Peter said metalic, the mk5 seems an expensive route to tak if it's just going to be modded ... I think it was you who told me that when I first looked into this!!
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    Hi Hamish,

    Marco, isn't your deck just a gloss black?
    Nope; it has a speckled black gloss metallic finish, which makes it look rather sexy. Most people remark on it, as did Dave when he first saw it

    the mk5 seems an expensive route to tak if it's just going to be modded ... I think it was you who told me that when I first looked into this!!
    I completely agree. However, as I intended mine to be a 'deck for life', I just wanted the nicest looking brand new one I could find - purely from an aesthetic point of view, nothing else

    I think my MK5G cost around £550 brand new in its standard guise.

    Marco.
    Main System

    Turntable: Heavily-modified Technics SL-1210MK5G [Mike New bearing/ETP platter/Paul Hynes SR7 PSU & regulator mods]. Funk Firm APM Achromat with Nagaoka GL-601 Crystal Record Weight. Isonoe feet & boots. Ortofon RS-212D tonearm with Denon DL-103GL, in a Denon PCL-300 headshell, fitted with Funk Firm Houdini and Kondo SL-115 pure-silver cartridge leads.

    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp and Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

    CD Player: Audiocom-modified Sony X-777ES/DAS-R1 DAC.

    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp, fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.

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    So my latest upgrade isnt something your are likely to do then marco... Shame I was hoping to ge some support and following for my latest business plan - "chavyotechie.com"
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    It does look good in the speckled black '

    Is removing the plastic cover appropriate to the MN bearing or is it another tweak ?
    Chris

    We've gone on holiday by mistake !

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    It's aparently essential, and didn't read the instructions properly, despite them being very clear!
    I haven't re atached the dust cover under the platter either, martin comented he thought it made some difference to the sound so I thought I might as well follow suit, although I haven't noticed any difference as I haven't tested it, it did see logical that a bit of shity thin plastic might not do any good and as it is unlikely to cause a problem not being there...
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    I took both off

    It sounds a bit more open ! im leaving them off i think
    Chris

    We've gone on holiday by mistake !

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    Looking good Hamish, it's encouraging me to go down the Technics route in the future, i have just found my old Luxman PD 290 D drive TT, i bought it new in 1983 of there abouts, might just sell it on and add the money to my 1210 pot.
    Jon


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonboy View Post
    Looking good Hamish, it's encouraging me to go down the Technics route in the future, i have just found my old Luxman PD 290 D drive TT, i bought it new in 1983 of there abouts, might just sell it on and add the money to my 1210 pot.
    Buy mine!

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    Looks excellent, Hamish, well done. I had thought the wiring might have been a tricky swap but it seems not. I found that leaving out the motor cover and the plastic tray under the platter just helps with soundstage portrayal and, since I'm not a DJ who's going to get it all mucky, there's no danger of getting it mucky.

    By the way, you should have kept the microswitch so that you could modify the on/off switch as a strobe-off like mine.

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