Richard's hi-fi ranting 'Room 101'

[jandl100]

as exampled on pinkfish and wigwam most forums just wish to jump on the bullshit marketing bandwagon, and just *expect* industry members to bullshit so wish to charge them £50 a time for doing it, so just perpetrating the problem.

Nope, I don't think that is true.

I only have extensive experience of the Wigwam, but that forum has simply accepted the fact that some dealers will flood their postings with marketting BS, (as we have seen here by our good ex-friend Ashley) and has found a way to limit and contain this by having a separate dealer section where they can BS to their hearts' delight and cracking down quite hard where this setup is abused.

I think that is a good & pragmatic system for addressing what is an inevitably ongoing problem.

[anthonyTD]

OK so lets get back on topic!

They say the electorate of this country get the politicians they deserve. Well could it be equally said that you Hi-Fi buffs get the industry you deserve.

Do you all secretly like the bullshite that dominates this industry, are you all so in deference to Hi-Fi reviewers and designers that you don't see them for the w* they are. Celebrities in an industry as small and as strange as ours, quite bizzarre.

So what happens, you get a buff who makes some changes or makes some good choices in Hi-Fi or just bluffs his way to people asking his opinion, next step he is a reviewer, next step he thinks he is god! Where as the ones that make changes get to be known as tweakers, so people ask then to make things and before they know it they design product and then they are a *designer* and then large numbers of you treat them like they are gods. In some cases they only have to pretend to be designers like Anthony M and Ivor T.

Audio electronics is not rocket science it is *bloody simple* and the simpler the better. The basics are common sense and a decent set of ears.

The real guys are never happier than with a soldering iron in hand and solder blobs on the jersey. Hey one recently has given up being a maker and gone back to being a tweaker, good old Crofty, I bet he is happier with it as well.

richard,
get your facts right, i have never pretended to be anything more than whats highlighted above, i have a good following in what i have acheived over the years, i have made many pieces of equipment from scratch with no one elses input, and combined my efforts with other well known people in the industry, and when i say from scratch, i mean from scratch, casework, boards, everything, if you want to have a go at people like me,for what ever your reasoning, there are other ways of doing it. i specialise in one paticular part of the audio re-play chain, valves, from studio equipment, to musical instrument amplification, and no, i didnt pick valve technology because as you seem to think its easier, i did it because that was the technology i was mostly into. i have a long history of electronics, my dad was a service engineer from the 1950's on, and repaired, serviced everything from televisions, to toasters!
anthony...

[Marco]

Yep spot on, Anthony. And considering I was in the company of Glenn Croft yesterday afternoon, some of which was spent discussing his new amplifier range that is soon to be launched, I can categorically confirm that "good old Crofty" has not given up being a maker, either. Don't believe everything you read in magazines

Marco.

[WikiBoy]

richard,
get your facts right, i have never pretended to be anything more than whats highlighted above, i have a good following in what i have acheived over the years, i have made many pieces of equipment from scratch with no one elses input, and combined my efforts with other well known people in the industry, and when i say from scratch, i mean from scratch, casework, boards, everything, if you want to have a go at people like me,for what ever your reasoning, there are other ways of doing it. i specialise in one paticular part of the audio re-play chain, valves, from studio equipment, to musical instrument amplification, and no, i didnt pick valve technology because as you seem to think its easier, i did it because that was the technology i was mostly into. i have a long history of electronics, my dad was a service engineer from the 1950's on, and repaired, serviced everything from televisions, to toasters!
anthony...

Would I ever be likely to put you in the company of Ivor T? are you the only person with the name Anthony M? - is your surname Michaelson?

[anthonyTD]

Would I ever be likely to put you in the company of Ivor T? are you the only person with the name Anthony M? - is your surname Michaelson?

richard,
my sincere apologies mate,
i must admit, it did make me think, if this was meant for me, the man has realy, realy lost the plot this time.

[pure sound]

Would this 'pretend to be' designer Anthony Michaelson be in any way related to the Anthony Michaelson you were praising in the 'Bottle Wallahs' thread?

".....It still has its place and I am very pleased it re-emerged from the wilderness, who in the UK do we thank for this do you remember were you around? Well it was Anthony Michaelson with TVR in the mid 70's, OK a majority went spectacularly up in flames but they were a welcome alternative to the burgeoning Linn / Naim religious pomposity...."

The amps were actually called TVA. (the company was Michaelson & Austin iirc)

[WikiBoy]

Nope, I don't think that is true.

I only have extensive experience of the Wigwam, but that forum has simply accepted the fact that some dealers will flood their postings with marketting BS, (as we have seen here by our good ex-friend Ashley) and has found a way to limit and contain this by having a separate dealer section where they can BS to their hearts' delight and cracking down quite hard where this setup is abused.

I think that is a good & pragmatic system for addressing what is an inevitably ongoing problem.

Manufacturers and industry members are normal human beings as well. For example I just happen to be a manufacturer but as I have proved on this list I have no interest in promoting my product on forums. Before this list existed I joined, in turn, Zerogain, Wigwam and Pink Fish. As here I wished to discuss the industry and get peoples opinions and *voice* the changes. At Wigwam NO mention of NVA yet I was sent a £50 invoice which I refused to pay, so now I have not just me banned and not mentioned but my product banned to be mentioned as well which wasn't being talked about and had nothing to do with it. Threads are pulled and posts are binned and member are threatened with banning if they talk about NVA. I am even accused of paying WW members to mention my products, that is how daft and paranoid the guy is. Is that fair.

Pink fish held off sending me an invoice until someone asked me a question about NVA and I replied factually and asked the person to PM me. I immediately received an invoice for £50 which I refused to pay publically which created a thread on its own There in theory I am banned to be talked about but I have never seen threads pulled because of it as at Wigwam. Zerogain has no policy of charging industry so I thought I was safe but it seems the owner of PF virtually owns ZG as well so it was contrived to ban me from that as well. OK so I am a controversial character who likes to voice and discuss controversial subjects, but surely that is what forums are for, not just platitudes and recycling all the industry BS.

Jerry if you want the industry not to cash in on forum exposure then it is not a good idea to try and cash in on it yourself, = hypocrisy. And £50 stops no-one it just makes them pay for it.

[jandl100]

richard,
my sincere apologies mate,
i must admit, it did make me think, if this was meant for me, the man has realy, realy lost the plot this time.

Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. But not this time!

[Sand Dancin Donkey Walker]

OK so lets get back on topic!

They say the electorate of this country get the politicians they deserve. Well could it be equally said that you Hi-Fi buffs get the industry you deserve.

Richard
Are you not part of the industry too.

Andy

[WikiBoy]

Would this 'pretend to be' designer Anthony Michaelson be in any way related to the Anthony Michaelson you were praising in the 'Bottle Wallahs' thread?

".....It still has its place and I am very pleased it re-emerged from the wilderness, who in the UK do we thank for this do you remember were you around? Well it was Anthony Michaelson with TVR in the mid 70's, OK a majority went spectacularly up in flames but they were a welcome alternative to the burgeoning Linn / Naim religious pomposity...."

The amps were actually called TVA. (the company was Michaelson & Austin iirc)

Did I say he was a designer in that thread, he owned the company. Did he design TVA - do you know the answer - or are you hunting again?