Richard's hi-fi ranting 'Room 101'

[anthonyTD]

Richard

Just re read your last posting and count up the number of times the word "I" appears in it. I think this and I think that and the general impression is that you are not pushing an opinion but more pushing a dictat and we have all got to agree with you or accept the fact we are fools.

These fora are a fairly broad church and we range from 100% Naim systems to valve enthusiasts to vinyle fanatics and to the bodger. They all have valid opinions, usually based on experience and will cheerfully debate until the cows come home.

What they will not accept is some proprietor of a small company repeating the same dictitorial stuff time and time again.

Far better to say ......... this is my product, I believe in it, I think it is good and competitive and I hope you give it a try. That will get results. Causing arguments and getting banned is maddness for a proprietor of a small hifi company and it seems to be a trade mark of a large proportion of your colleagues and competitors.

Learn some presentation skills or pay someone else to do it for you.

Your choice and your livelyhood.

Regards

Mick

hi mick,
you have a point, and i for one have quite extensive experience of working with people you describe. richards rant on the other hand, in my opinion also has its merits...

[Steve Toy]

Richard's thread is reopened for him to rant away. No personal insults though please Richard.

[Filterlab]

...No personal insults though please Richard.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

That'll last for about ten words! He's a freakin' liability!

[Ali Tait]

Well seeing as I got gagged for trying to be a fair voice on the "wallah" thread,and being told via PM that the reason the thread was closed all of a sudden (after I had asked via PM) was because the thread "was going nowhere" in spite of the fact that a post I had made previously was answered by Steve Toy(the main man on this site AFAIK) to which I replied via PM to the effect that how could the thread be going nowhere when the main man is replying to my posts?? To which I've still not received an answer (via PM) but I suppose there was a sort of back-handed answer in the last couple of public posts on the thread in question.All I was trying to do was be a fair and impartial voice,but as far as I can see from what has transpired,isthat this is not allowed on this site unless it fits in with the admin team's designs.I therefore have come to the conclusion that I will no longer visit or contribute to this site.I believe in free speech and freedom for all human beings,so will not tolerate the totalitarianism as practised by the persons running this place.I've no idea why I'm typing this,as I guess that the admin team will delete it anyway,but at least I got it off my chest.I wish all the members here all the very best.

Ali.

[Marco]

Hi Ali,

Get a grip, mate. No-one is being gagged. You have a PM

Btw, there is no "main man" here. Steve, Rob and I all have equal authority.

Marco.

[Filterlab]

LOL! "Totalitarianism". That's a slightly strong word to describe a forum's management isn't it? Ali, if you feel you have to leave due to our 'regime' then that's your decision mate. I'm sorry you feel that way though, especially as I can't see where, how or by whom you have been "gagged".

But then what do I know, I'm not the "main man" obviously?

[Mike]

Ali,

Before you bugger off, I don't suppose I can have my digi cable back could I, please?

[Steve Toy]

Ali. Don't bugger off. The Art of Sound is about valves and DIY as much as anything else. We'll work through this shite but it isn't easy.

And no, there is no main man. The three admin members have equal say and a 2/3rds majority carries.

[WikiBoy]

OK so lets get back on topic!

They say the electorate of this country get the politicians they deserve. Well could it be equally said that you Hi-Fi buffs get the industry you deserve.

Do you all secretly like the bullshite that dominates this industry, are you all so in deference to Hi-Fi reviewers and designers that you don't see them for the w* they are. Celebrities in an industry as small and as strange as ours, quite bizzarre.

So what happens, you get a buff who makes some changes or makes some good choices in Hi-Fi or just bluffs his way to people asking his opinion, next step he is a reviewer, next step he thinks he is god! Where as the ones that make changes get to be known as tweakers, so people ask then to make things and before they know it they design product and then they are a *designer* and then large numbers of you treat them like they are gods. In some cases they only have to pretend to be designers like Anthony M and Ivor T.

Audio electronics is not rocket science it is *bloody simple* and the simpler the better. The basics are common sense and a decent set of ears.

The real guys are never happier than with a soldering iron in hand and solder blobs on the jersey. Hey one recently has given up being a maker and gone back to being a tweaker, good old Crofty, I bet he is happier with it as well.

[Steve Toy]

Tweakers (that also have made their own kit from scratch) are the good guys (Glen Croft and Anthony Matthews included.) I know because my valve amp has improved enormously since it was extensively tweaked, or 'raped' as one chap put it on another forum.

With a host of rare NOS valves and still-manufactured output valves that are the ones that wear out, I'm happy indeed.

Bespoke is the way to go - it cuts out all the marketing and distributor costs to produce something that would probably cost over £3,000 were it available as an off-the-peg commercial item.