At the price and margins Stan works at there's just no wiggle room to use casework that isn't off the shelf. It would end up being 50% of the price, which is all too often what happens with many manufacturers. I think Stan understands his customers pretty well. There may well be some room for higher priced, more conceived casework designs within his line up at some point in the future, but for now, in a recession, he's 100% right to continue his pure VFM focus.