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    This thread could put a glass eye to sleep
    Andy.

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    Gary,

    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    its best to keep the design simple, clear and to the point.






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    Last edited by Werner Berghofer; 03-06-2012 at 06:10.
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    I've taken the liberty of combining two of Werners ideas to show my favorite so far.



    I think the use of symbols looks neater but feel that they will be too obscure and non intuitive to many users.
    Along similar lines I think that labeling the sources 1 2 3 4 will be more intuitive than 1 2 1 2.

    I'm really liking the reduction of the colours on the front panels. It looks far more professional and stylish. Just Black and Grey with blue lights looks much classier than Black, White, Red, Blue, Gold of the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Werner Berghofer View Post
    Gary,









    Werner.

    Sorry Werner, you've lost me.
    Ok with not having it on Betamax nowadays

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    The Shiit looks simple, CLEAN and totally uncluttered, with it's plain front and artfully folded casework. Perhaps Stan can't go quite that far, and probably doesn't want to, but how about reducing the size of the lettering on the front of the Bushmaster to something very discrete?

    May well be that all this messing around with front panels will hold up production What do you want, your own take on the panel, or a working DAC as quick as possible?
    I can't go on and I can't go back, I don't feel so matter of fact,
    I tried and tried to make good sense, What's the good to try it all again?

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    Gary - Werner just wants all kit to look like the Schiit stuff. He likes it, which he is entitled to, of course.
    He's just comparing and contrasting the functional, rather old-fashioned Beresford look, with the Kool and trendy Schiit gear.
    Obviously, any person with good taste, seeing the two designs juxtaposed, has to prefer the Schiit look.

    Yes, it's very trendy, very 'this year', and very imho.
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    To be honest it can be in a Tupperware box for me as long as it sounds good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Adder View Post
    My advice is to have something designed, something unique to trademark. ...your products deserve it.
    +1

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    Ultimately, I do not care what my boxes look like as long as they work. Given the option though I prefer the industrial/laboratory equipment look. Like Nagra, or ARC.
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    Gary,

    Quote Originally Posted by Gazjam View Post
    Sorry Werner, you've lost me.
    I don’t think so. Recently I asked you kindly to describe in a few words the “Beresford brand identity”. Instead of answering my request, you suggested to have a look at Stan’s gear and as an additional bonus you provided a link to Wikipedia — fortunately at least this link worked. So far the only person obviously found worth doing trying to describe his feelings and perception of Beresford products and their philosophy was Hamish.

    Actually you seem to have no idea about this legendary “Beresford brand identity”, but one thing you know for sure: It has to be kept intact and alive, and my design proposals just violate it.

    You stated “its best to keep the design simple, clear and to the point”, and I felt free to match what you call “simple, clear and to the point” with photos from products which actually are designed this way. The prices for these products still are very reasonable and fair, but it’s obvious that their visual appearance is in a complete different, much higher league. By looking at gear designed like this, one expects that it also must be sounding excellent. In contrast, when looking at a big part of British HiFi gear, one wouldn’t expect more than just the power indicator light starting to glow the moment the unit is being powered on — assuming of course a brick-sized, high-performance external PSU is used.

    To exaggerate this a little bit: certain British audio gear may sound very good, but it looks and feels as if it had been designed and assembled by amateur electronics handymen working from the garden shed. Their gear’s possible superior inner life and craftsmanship just is not recognizable from the outside, and more sensitive people might not feel invited to give gear looking that nasty even a try.

    Nowadays even a small fish in a big pond needs professionally designed cases, web sites and printing matter to reflect the outstanding quality of his products in a credible, convincing way. It’s the Internet age, my dear; the days of the tinker’s weekly buddy meeting at the local pub are over. Schiit started as a company run by only two persons, but had a highly professional web site from day one plus a very clever marketing concept. It also helped a lot that both founders are well-known and respected names in the audio business.

    To Jerry aka “Jandl100”: As an experienced Webzine Reviewer you certainly know that the company name is Schiit. So what’s the deal with misspelling it constantly? I’m convinced that even in a few years in the future Schiit’s current case designs still shall be recognized as outstanding, excellent and reduced to the maximum. Simple, clear and to the point, as Gary aka “Gazjam” prefers it, but unfortunately failed to demonstrate in a convincing way with his own proposals.

    All just in my humble opinion, of course.

    Werner.
    Last edited by Werner Berghofer; 03-06-2012 at 22:08. Reason: typos
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