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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    Oh and i think it looks sexier than the Oyaide mat
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    Quote Originally Posted by CableMaker1 View Post
    Hello Stephen.

    Can you compare differences between your copper layer being bonded to the platter vs. a copper plate on top of the platter?

    Thanks.
    Hi Mike - no I can't do this comparison as I have never had a non-bonded copper platter like the MicroSeiki - it is certainly significantly "better" than the standard platter with Achromat IMO

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    If you do the "ping" test, do you hear any ringing? I would expect not.

    However, the platter looks nice with the copper finish.
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    Maybe these questions have been answered already; but,

    How do you get the platter off?? I don't see any finger holes or bolt holes.

    How does this directly affect VTA or does it? Is it thicker on the bottom? It looks like the platter is no taller than a stock platter.

    Compared to a stock platter, does it ring when tapped more, less or the same as?

    It looks cool. I'm just trying to make sure I understand the advantages over a stock platter. Thanks.
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    Vantage Audio provide a pair of very fine custom "pulling hooks" that slip down the side/underneath the platter to be used to lift it off the spindle if required.

    The platter is about 0.5 mm taller than the stock platter but because it is designed to be used without a mat then the total height is a bit less - in my case about 1mm less than the stock platter with Achromat so it make a small change to the VTA which is well within adjustment of arm height if desired.

    Not sure about "ringing" comparison as I have not formally tested but new platter sounds "dead" when handled and placed on spindle.

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    It looks like a neat & cost effective solution. Presumably the copper is bonded to the platter & then machined up once in situ? Can you get some idea (by looking at the spindle hole) what the thickness of copper used is? It can't be too much if the overall weight has been kept in the same ballpark for optimal motor control.

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    I reckon about 0.5mm thick but i'm sure Richard at VA could give you all the technical details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pure sound View Post
    It looks like a neat & cost effective solution. Presumably the copper is bonded to the platter & then machined up once in situ? Can you get some idea (by looking at the spindle hole) what the thickness of copper used is? It can't be too much if the overall weight has been kept in the same ballpark for optimal motor control.
    Hi Guy

    Here is a picture of an unfinished platter which Richard made for the SL-QL1 , which i will get a chance to try out very soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by worrasf View Post
    I reckon about 0.5mm thick but i'm sure Richard at VA could give you all the technical details.

    Steve
    Hi Steve

    Was there any change in tonality with the modded platter ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris@panteg View Post
    Hi Steve

    Was there any change in tonality with the modded platter ?
    Hello Chris,
    No, not to my ears the overall tone of the music remained the same - it was the way it is presented that improved, better attack (start and stop quicker) - less "bleed" of instruments into each other and overall better clarity and timing but the essential sound was preserved (just as well as I'd spent not a little time and a lot of dollar getting the tone I like by valve swapping in my Croft's.
    I reckon I am a world authority now on the sonic characteristics of valves various

    If anyone reading this thread has a Croft Pre/Power combination I'm happy to discuss further.

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