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    I see Martin is following his usual path of denial

    They are reasons that the power supply to a clock is also as important as the quality of the clock itself imho

    For example the latest fad for fetmo clocks is quite something, uber low jitter sepc's the best yet etc. However EVERYTHING in the clock signal path way has an effect, personally I use low phase noise clocks for me they produce a far more natural sound, however the correct ultra quiet power supply rail to the clock is AS important to reaping these benefits.

    Having fitted over 200 aftermarket clocks in the last 15 years, NO one has returned the units and decided it has made no difference what so ever.

    So according to Martin's logic either they are over 200 people fooling themselves that it does make a different or like naim owners convincing themselves it does sound better than the rest of the audio world products

    Or a lot of people are embarrassed but are too afraid to speak up?

    Jitter is important in the context of the individual piece of equipment and how it is implemented, however the sum of the parts make the whole.



    You can measure the before and after clock output frequency signals when you change a clock whether this relates directly to improved sound quality is as debatable as a class 'a' monster power amp is the epitome of quality audio play back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. C View Post
    I see Martin is following his usual path of denial

    They are reasons that the power supply to a clock is also as important as the quality of the clock itself imho

    For example the latest fad for fetmo clocks is quite something, uber low jitter sepc's the best yet etc. However EVERYTHING in the clock signal path way has an effect, personally I use low phase noise clocks for me they produce a far more natural sound, however the correct ultra quiet power supply rail to the clock is AS important to reaping these benefits.

    Having fitted over 200 aftermarket clocks in the last 15 years, NO one has returned the units and decided it has made no difference what so ever.

    So according to Martin's logic either they are over 200 people fooling themselves that it does make a different or like naim owners convincing themselves it does sound better than the rest of the audio world products

    Or a lot of people are embarrassed but are too afraid to speak up?

    Jitter is important in the context of the individual piece of equipment and how it is implemented, however the sum of the parts make the whole.



    You can measure the before and after clock output frequency signals when you change a clock whether this relates directly to improved sound quality is as debatable as a class 'a' monster power amp is the epitome of quality audio play back.
    Agreed re: phase noise, more of an effect I think than a clock that is still super accurate a thousand years from now.
    Power supply quality is vital too.

    of course...assuming IF any of this stuff makes a difference
    AC POWER
    Hardwired 10kVA balanced mains powering entire system
    AMPS
    Meridian 557 power Amp (Modded) / PS Audio BHK Preamp (Modded)
    SPEAKERS
    Wharfedale Evo 4.4
    DAC
    PS Audio Directstream (Modded)
    TURNTABLE
    Pro-Ject X8 balanced output via XLR / Ortofon Quintet Blue cartridge
    PHONOSTAGE
    Pro-Ject DS3 B balanced Input (TT and Phonostage powered by Pro-Ject Power box RS2 linear psu)
    DIGITAL
    OPPO 203 (Modded: Linear PSU, i2s output to Dac) - Roon Endpoint, HDMI input used for all things Streaming/ PS5 /AppleTV ... also good for movies apparently?
    MUSIC PLAYBACK
    Tweaked AP-Linux based Roon Server into Oppo 203 as Roon endpoint
    Ipad Roon Remote.
    Apple Music/ YouTube via AppleTV, fed to Dac via Oppo HDMI input/i2s output to Dac.
    SPEAKER CABLES
    Biwired: Duelund DCA10GA (Bass) Duelund DCA16GA (mid & treble) Duelund 12DCA used as jumpers (On
    "Blackcat Cable" Chris Sommivigo's advice - yup, even with biwire it sounds better - and it does)
    INTERCONNECTS
    All Balanced: Ghost+ recording studio XLR cables

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. C View Post
    I see Martin is following his usual path of denial

    They are reasons that the power supply to a clock is also as important as the quality of the clock itself imho

    For example the latest fad for fetmo clocks is quite something, uber low jitter sepc's the best yet etc. However EVERYTHING in the clock signal path way has an effect, personally I use low phase noise clocks for me they produce a far more natural sound, however the correct ultra quiet power supply rail to the clock is AS important to reaping these benefits.

    Having fitted over 200 aftermarket clocks in the last 15 years, NO one has returned the units and decided it has made no difference what so ever.

    So according to Martin's logic either they are over 200 people fooling themselves that it does make a different or like naim owners convincing themselves it does sound better than the rest of the audio world products

    Or a lot of people are embarrassed but are too afraid to speak up?

    Jitter is important in the context of the individual piece of equipment and how it is implemented, however the sum of the parts make the whole.



    You can measure the before and after clock output frequency signals when you change a clock whether this relates directly to improved sound quality is as debatable as a class 'a' monster power amp is the epitome of quality audio play back.
    But we all know it is

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