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    Science has a valid role to play in the pursuit of Hi-Fi excellence. The knowledge it brings to the table allows us to concentrate on what matters and to ignore what doesn’t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloth-ears View Post
    Science has a valid role to play in the pursuit of Hi-Fi excellence. The knowledge it brings to the table allows us to concentrate on what matters and to ignore what doesn’t.
    Who are these "us" and how would they discriminate between 'what matters and what doesn't' ?
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by walpurgis View Post
    Who are these "us" and how would they discriminate between 'what matters and what doesn't' ?
    “Us” is anyone who believes in fundamental scientific principles. Applying these principles would tell “us” if placing a pot of jam on a speaker wire makes it sound better or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloth-ears View Post
    “Us” is anyone who believes in fundamental scientific principles. Applying these principles would tell “us” if placing a pot of jam on a speaker wire makes it sound better or not.
    I must admit I've not tried that. What were your findings?
    It is impossible for anything digital to sound analogue, because it isn't analogue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloth-ears View Post
    Science has a valid role to play in the pursuit of Hi-Fi excellence.
    Yes of course, for those who build and produce our equipment, it is an undeniable necessity. Those of us who simply buy it and listen to it, however, don't need science to help us enjoy our equipment or the music it produces!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco View Post
    Yes of course, for those who build and produce our equipment, it is an undeniable necessity. Those of us who simply buy it and listen to it, however, don't need science to help us enjoy our music!

    Marco.
    It can be useful for determining what we buy - or at least what we decide to try out. For example If you had 10K to spend on speakers there is no way you can dem every 10K speaker in your own home. So having some knowledge of the design and the specs is helpful to ascertain if they will be a match with your room and your amplification.
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    TEAC VRDS 701T > Sony TAE1000ESD > Krell KSA50S > JM Labs Focal Electra 926.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macca View Post
    It can be useful for determining what we buy - or at least what we decide to try out. For example If you had 10K to spend on speakers there is no way you can dem every 10K speaker in your own home. So having some knowledge of the design and the specs is helpful to ascertain if they will be a match with your room and your amplification.
    Yes sure, if you're that way inclined. I don't seem to have done too badly though, mainly using my ears, good judgement and gut instincts!

    Marco [Who's listening room is a test apparatus-free zone. No blindfolds either, except for bondage purposes].
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    Paul Hynes MC head amp/SR5 PSU. Also modded Lentek head amp/Denon AU-310 SUT.

    Other Cartridges: Nippon Columbia (NOS 1987) Denon DL-103. USA-made Shure SC35C with NOS stylus. Goldring G820 with NOS stylus. Shure M55E with NOS stylus.

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    Tape Deck: Tandberg TCD 310, fully restored and recalibrated as new, by RDE, plus upgraded with heads from the TCD-420a. Also with matching TM4 Norway microphones.

    Preamps: Heavily-modified Croft Charisma-X. LDR Stereo Coffee. Power Amps: Tube Distinctions Copper Amp fitted with Tungsol KT-150s. Quad 306.

    Cables & Sundries: Mark Grant HDX1 interconnects and digital coaxial cable, plus Mark Grant 6mm UP-LCOFC Van Damme speaker cable. MCRU 'Ultimate' mains leads. Lehmann clone headphone amp with vintage Koss PRO-4AAA headphones.

    Tube Distinctions digital noise filter. VPI HW16.5 record cleaning machine.

    Speakers: Tannoy 15MGs in Lockwood cabinets with modified crossovers. 1967 Celestion Ditton 15.


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