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    Barry’s a big Laithwaites fan/user, Joe, so he’ll be able to chat to you about that

    Although I’m a massive fan of fine wines, and know a bit about wine, I’m not a fan of wine clubs, as purchases have to be in cases (generally of the same wine), and I prefer having a variety, by hand-selecting the wine I buy in individual bottles from quality wine merchants (and occasionally supermarkets).

    It’s rather like buying records… Amazon versus independent record shops - for me there’s no contest!

    I also dislike wine clubs, once you've signed up, constantly pestering you to buy something, and sending you all manner of ‘bumph’ and promotional leaflets through the post

    Tanners, in Shrewsbury, is one of our favourite wine merchants, as they have an amazing selection of truly fabulous wine. 'Corks Out’, in Chester, is another of our favs: http://www.corksout.com/chester Both of them offer a mail order service.

    However, driving to France and buying wine either directly from vineyards, independent wine retailers and/or supermarkets, is our favourite way of doing it - and you can obtain some SERIOUS bargains that way! We’ll be doing precisely that very soon. This is our favourite haunt in Calais: http://www.intercaves.fr/decouvrez-l...aves-2428.html

    It’s where the French people there go to buy quality wine (although at very attractive prices), rather than British tourists looking for 5 litres of ‘plonk’ for £3!

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    My wife's family is Belgian and my father-in-law, like most like-minded individuals, has been a member of a wine club for decades. The idea is to buy and keep in the cellar, as most people have cellars, or access to one. Is the only sensible way of having ready access to fine wines at the right age at sensible prices (e.g. 8 to 15 years for Bordeaux, etc.).

    I have a mate who imports directly from select producers in France and sells to a private client base. That's an option.

    These days, I tend to buy new world mines at Majestic - much better value for money and very palatable.

    Of course the best option is to go to France and Italy and carry out extensive testing, then fill up the boot.
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    Nice one, Marco.

    Always good to know where to go. To be honest I don't have time to get anywhere but supermarkets. Saying that, I do find that Waitrose is the best place. The stuff they have in the coop for example is like power steering fluid.

    We also always go for the organic range too. This is of choice due to bad tummy aches after drinking the shite with 'added' shelf life ingredients I think... The organic certainly makes me a happy bunny in the morning put it that way and the taste is so smooth.

    I'm after some bargains for sure If you have any recommendations please let me know. Right now we pay around £10 for a bottle of organic wine (red only with us).

    Yep, wine clubs do put me off but I didn't know they were still as vigorous on the marketing/pestering front. Sounds like they are.

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    Hi Steven,

    Quote Originally Posted by SLS View Post
    My wife's family is Belgian and my father-in-law, like most like-minded individuals, has been a member of a wine club for decades. The idea is to buy and keep in the cellar, as most people have cellars, or access to one. Is the only sensible way of having ready access to fine wines at the right age at sensible prices (e.g. 8 to 15 years for Bordeaux, etc.).
    You’re absolutely right. Trouble is, I simply don’t have the willpower or patience to keep it for that long!

    2-3 years is about my limit (for quality Bordeaux, and such like) before curiosity gets the better of me, and it’s opened (and carefully decanted) on special occasions, such as at Christmas or a special birthday celebration, and enjoyed with appropriate food to match

    I have a mate who imports directly from select producers in France and sells to a private client base.
    I like the idea, and have employed the use of that method before, but dislike the (often) elitist/snooty nature of the process. I’m not a massive fan of New World wines. I much prefer French, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese and even Greek wines. One of my favourites is Chateau Musar, from Lebanon.

    Of course the best option is to go to France and Italy and carry out extensive testing, then fill up the boot.
    Defo - especially when you can tie it in with a nice holiday, too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Adder View Post
    Nice one, Marco.

    Always good to know where to go. To be honest I don't have time to get anywhere but supermarkets. Saying that, I do find that Waitrose is the best place. The stuff they have in the coop for example is like power steering fluid.

    We also always go for the organic range too. This is of choice due to bad tummy aches after drinking the shite with 'added' shelf life ingredients I think... The organic certainly makes me a happy bunny in the morning put it that way and the taste is so smooth.

    I'm after some bargains for sure If you have any recommendations please let me know. Right now we pay around £10 for a bottle of organic wine (red only with us).

    Yep, wine clubs do put me off but I didn't know they were still as vigorous on the marketing/pestering front. Sounds like they are.
    Joe, others will be able to comment with more authority than I about the latter, but when I used to be a member of Laithwaites and The Sunday Times Wine club, back in the early 2000s, the promoting was relentless and extremely off-putting. However, things may have changed.

    I didn’t know you enjoyed a nice bottle of red… When you visit, I’ll let you sample some interesting stuff you may not have tasted before

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    Thanks, Steven...

    Sure, Marco... that sounds like a good idea. Yeah, we love red wine. It's the only thing I can drink these days.

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    Alas it doesn't mix well with Whisky, so I don't drink much it now except the odd glass at a special dinner, and the occasional wine night. I like wine but it can be acidy for my delicate stomach Still have some nice stuff in the cupboard that's been there too long tbh and needs drunk....ALDI often do top wines and I've had a few really nice ones. Italian fruity white is my favourite or a nice Burgundy. I also like a lot of the Aussie stuff and Californian too...
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    I can also recommend Tanners (http://www.tanners-wines.co.uk). I was a member of a well-known wine club for many years but got fed up with the marketing and the increasing variability of what was supplied. Tanners is a family-run firm that is reasonably local to me. They have many of the advantages of a wine club: pre-prepared cases, home delivery and good pricing but without the disadvantages imho. They do send out a regular leaflets but they have never bugged me! Tanners also have an "En Primeur" service if you want to get into some cellar planning!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Adder View Post
    Thanks, Steven...

    Sure, Marco... that sounds like a good idea. Yeah, we love red wine. It's the only thing I can drink these days.
    My wine dealer mate is a Scottish alcoholic who drives round in a 20 year old battered Volvo because I think he drinks his profits.

    Had plenty of liquid holidays in France and Italy. Notable trips include Corsica and Portugal, the latter at a hotel with a magnificent cellar. They keep all their good stuff for themselves and don't export it, hence its lousy reputation over here.

    Best trip has to be in Piedmonte (Mombaruzzo - near Asti, Barbaresco, Barolo, etc. Every vineyard has multiple varieties and a Michelin restaurant, so they'll serve you 4 or 5 different wines and a slap-up meal for a very reasonable price. Much quieter than Tuscany, Dordogne etc.
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