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    Quote Originally Posted by AlfaGTV View Post
    Was wondering why the label says " make sure the record is fully dry before playing..."?
    /Mike
    Mike, quite a few people use the fluid for hand cleaning with micro fibre cloths, in fact we supply the stuff in a kit, with a micro fibre cloth to Reckless Records which they sell to their customers. If the record has not been fully dried then any dust falling on it *could* form a sludge and set in the grooves. This is highly unlikely but with these things, you have to cover every base.

    In fact any residue left after cleaning, unless it was enough to pool, would fully evaporate in a few seconds.

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    The only place I find any damp residue after cleaning is at the very end of the dead wax where the vacuum misses a bit but a few wafts in the air usually clears it.
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    Okay, that makes some sense! Are you saying a microfibre cloth has the necessary length of fibres to reach into the groove? And of course not leave any residue?

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    I don't think any brush has fibres small enough to reach the bottom of the groove. All brushes can do is remove surface dust IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    As i posted in Trade Impressions, I now have stock of the Loricraft type soft nylon brush and the natural fibre dry brush too. The are in stores.ebay.co.uk/rebirthofthecool but PM me andthere is a deal for AoS members on these as well as the fluid.

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    Is the natural fiber brush only for dry dusting? I have the nylon one for my PRC4, but always wonder if there's something better - I suppose not, since all the brush does is ensure the fluid gets in the groove.

    I wonder how the natural fiber brush would compare to my old Decca CF brush that I've been using for yonks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaym481 View Post
    Is the natural fiber brush only for dry dusting? I have the nylon one for my PRC4, but always wonder if there's something better - I suppose not, since all the brush does is ensure the fluid gets in the groove.

    I wonder how the natural fiber brush would compare to my old Decca CF brush that I've been using for yonks?
    Hi Jay,

    I only reccomend the natural fibre brushes for dry cleaning. Like you I used a CF brush for many years, but when I was at Loricraft when we were offered one to rebadge we also heard about CF damaging records and in one case it was alleged that a carbon fibre that had become jammed in the grove of a record had chipped a stylus. Now I was never sure this was true, but CF is hard enough to do this, so we looked around for a soft alternative that still wipe of dust etc. The natual fibre one was the best I found and in normal use, i.e. just whiskingb off dirt, did not seem to rebuild static after several uses following a wet clean.

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    Funny you say that Paul but one of the fibres from my carbon fibre brush came off and stuck in a groove. I had the devil of a time getting it out again and nearly missed it. fortunately I inspect them under a high power lamp after doing it.
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    I use a goat's hair brush, best I've found so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulStewart View Post
    Hi All,

    Glad you like "The Right One" fluid, Alan no don't rinse, there is no need to and as far as I can tell there is more chance of static returning with rinsing. As i posted in Trade Impressions, I now have stock of the Loricraft type soft nylon brush and the natural fibre dry brush too. The are in stores.ebay.co.uk/rebirthofthecool but PM me andthere is a deal for AoS members on these as well as the fluid.

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    OK Thanks Paul
    Did a couple more today and the results are excellent thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by struth View Post
    Funny you say that Paul but one of the fibres from my carbon fibre brush came off and stuck in a groove. I had the devil of a time getting it out again and nearly missed it. fortunately I inspect them under a high power lamp after doing it.
    That's the scenario Grant, round comes the ultra hard carbon fibre and bags into the stylus and even if it doesn't damage the diamond, it could be ripped out and damage the groove.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ali Tait View Post
    I use a goat's hair brush, best I've found so far.
    The natural fibre brushes I sell are the goat's hair ones that were sold as Loricraft/Garrard

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