You can't blame everything on pandemic. Other countries had it too. We just put ourselves at a financial disadvantage to start with.
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You can't blame everything on pandemic. Other countries had it too. We just put ourselves at a financial disadvantage to start with.
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Originally Posted by struth
It was the worst possible time to have the upheaval of leaving the EU. Still I think it was better to get it done rather than keep putting it off though.Quote:
Originally Posted by struth
I see, so why did that bother you so much? And if it hasn't really made any difference to you at all, apart from as with the rest of us, make things more expensive, then why did you vote for it - what exactly did you hope to gain...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
I think some of what you say is correct and makes sense, but you're about the only person I know, including all sorts of knowledgeable people I've heard on TV, including some government ministers, who think that Brexit has had **NO IMPACT WHATSOEVER** on the current lack of lorry drivers and resultant fuel shortages.Quote:
I don't think it's anything to do with Brexit, no. Not unless the Americans, Germans and Chinese all had Brexit too.
I already said that shipping costs have gone up due to the pandemic as demand for air freight has massively outstripped supply.
It's funny that we have a global pandemic that has massively affected every aspect of everything in the world and yet people are still claiming 'It's Brexit!'.
Marco.
It was the worst possible thing for anyone in the UK who considered themselves more European than British. Count Del and me in! There have been, and will be no advantages for us, which is why we both voted against it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
As I said before, let's see how much it costs to bring back a shedload of wine in the car, next time we're in France, compared with before, and then I'll really let you know what I think of your fucking Brexit!;)
Marco.
Because I think that there is a wider responsibility to the country, to the generations that came before and the generations that come after us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
I have no doubt that in the long term the country will be much better off out of the EU which is a corrupt, self-serving organisation that was holding us back. So wealthy people will have to pay a bit more for their wine? Nobody cares about that. And in any case that's down to the EU. It was their decision to stop the customs union.
You very rarely see anyone knowledgeable on TV these days. It's wall to wall misinformation and agendas.
Ok, that's fair enough, but that's interesting, as in similar situations your approach has (seemingly) been more about not giving a fuck what happens when you're gone!;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
I hope you're right, and hope to see some tangible evidence of that soon, but I'm not so sure.Quote:
I have no doubt that in the long term the country will be much better off out of the EU which is a corrupt, self-serving organisation that was holding us back.
Hey, well I do!:D And it's not wealthy people who go on 'booze cruises' to Calais!:ner:;)Quote:
So wealthy people will have to pay a bit more for their wine? Nobody cares about that.
Marco.
That's true because in normal circumstances there's nothing I can do about it in any case, but as it happens the opportunity to do something about the EU came up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco
if you think about how independence for Scotland is important to you then maybe you can understand how independence from the EU is important to others.
Independence for Scotland would also be a rocky road full of unknowns, but I don't think that would stop you voting for it.
Agree with all the above - also, I was pleased to see the end of paying for an extra bunch of freeloader bureaucrats (MEP's)Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca
I find it very amusing that SNP want independence from the union only to join another run from Brussels :scratch:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macca